Thanks that (keepalives on phone) seemed to help but we're suffering
unrelated connectivity problems between the sites, so I won't be able to
test until that is resolved, but if I'm having trouble still I'll try some
of your other suggestions.
On Oct 15, 2013 8:44 AM, "Jon Gerdes" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I use these parameters which seem to work regardless of where the phone is
> (NAT or VPN)
>
> nat=yes for all devices whether internal (VPN) or external
> Set the RTP ports to the same as the Asterisk server or make the server
> range a superset of the device's ranges
> Enable symmetric RTP
> Enable keep alives on the phones - some may have a NAT keep alive option
>
> Make sure you have defined your localnet on Asterisk for each "internal"
> subnet.  I usually put  10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 172.16.0.0/255.240.0.0 and
> 192.168.20.0/255.255.0.0 in on all Asterisks I configure - it covers most
> eventualities.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Cheers
> Jon
>
>
> >>>
> > i have nat=no set for those devices since it's over a tunnel (i've tried
> > yes and strict as well i think).
> > my RTP range is 10000-20000 on the asterisk device. (and they are allowed
> > through the firewall)
> > at the moment i'm using a snom m9 (RTP range 49152-65534)
> > but i've seen the same issues with a aastra 480 (rtp 3000-3003)
> > and a digium d50 (not sure on the RTP ports)
> >
> > Should any of this matter over a OpenVPN tunnel? or only over NAT?
> >
> > I'm not just losing voice btw (which i assume is the RTP), I'm loosing
> all
> > connectivity (which I'm assuming means my Sip session is down).
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Jon Gerdes <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Are you using symmetric RTP?  if not, try that along with a keep alive
> >> option.  As the RFC for it states it should be a default - shame it
> isn't
> >> on many systems. it fixes a lot of snags for me.
> >>
> >> I have a phone - Cisco 504G - on my desk that can go weeks without
> >> making/taking a call and yet just works.  The PBX  - Asterisk 11 - for
> it
> >> is over 50 miles away, behind  pfSense  2.1 (formally 2.0.{1,2,3}), at
> one
> >> stage over IPSEC and now simply NATted.
> >>
> >> Your problem is almost certainly the phone setting up an RTP port at
> >> registration and then assuming it can carry on using it.  The state
> goes at
> >> one end or the other and then calls fail.  By using symmetric RTP you
> >> effectively fix the RTP port at both ends and the state will properly
> keep
> >> alive - at both ends, PBX and phone.
> >>
> >> Also make sure that your RTP port range is the same at both ends.  There
> >> are many range defaults depending on manufacturer.  Asterisk defaults to
> >> 10000-20000 (check /etc/astyerisk/rtp.conf) but Cisco for example does
> not.
> >>
> >> So:
> >> Get the RTP ranges fixed up
> >> Use symmetric RTP
> >> Use keep alives
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Jon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >>>
> >> > Already tried that, I think they are pinged every 30sec from the
> asterisk
> >> > side.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Vick Khera <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Can you configure your phones to use do a keepalive ping? It sounds
> like
> >> >> the states are timing out.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:44 PM, palesius . <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> To take a break from all the NSA talk...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm having some trouble routing traffic over an openvpn tunnel
> between
> >> >>> two pfsense firewalls. Asterisk server on one end, a couple of
> >> different
> >> >>> phones on the other side.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It was working fine when we had monowall on both ends. (W/ipsec
> tunnel)
> >> >>> Since changing to pfsense it will register with the server just fine
> >> but
> >> >>> will lose it's connection anywhere from a few minutes to hours
> later.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I've tried both ipsec and openvpn tunnels and have pretty much the
> same
> >> >>> result. I know mono and pfsense use a diffrerent firewall engine, is
> >> there
> >> >>> something obvious I should set/change to fix this.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I had kind of dropped the issue a few months ago but wanted to take
> >> >>> another stab at it. I'll try to do some packet captures but don't
> have
> >> any
> >> >>> at the moment. Just hoping there is some easy general fix for
> getting
> >> SIP
> >> >>> working that someone else has already discovered.
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