Well… this is my area of expertise at work: cheap hardware begets bad 
experiences.

OTC hardware is cheap. Even if you pay a lot for it.

Firetide, FluidMesh and Rajant are the best hardware on the market for what 
you’re describing. And VERY expensive.



> On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Karl Fife <karlf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Both Zero Handoff and Wireless Backhaul for Wi-Fi  have proven to be *not 
> useful* technologies for us due to the transient and unpredictable nature of 
> Wi-Fi interference.  Both technologies have correlated risk factors that 
> cause cascading performance degredation.  As interference or load increases, 
> the probability of adverse loss, jitter, and latency also increase.  That 
> breaks the network's suitability to many applications.
> 
> SNR in the backhaul band can be fine for days, then can become absolute shit 
> for hours, seemingly for no reason.  Site analysis shows an energy spike in 
> the backhaul band.  Maybe somebody's 'smart' AP has changed channels.  Maybe 
> someone is microwaving a baby monitor.  Maybe the UFO's just outside probe my 
> brain using the Wi-Fi bands to steal my secret plans.  Architecture using 
> these technologies can be acceptable for hobbyists, or for when there is 
> literally no other option within budget, but IMO architecting a system with 
> them is similar to setting out for a day on the ocean with a life jacket 
> (i.e. no boat).
> 
> Zero Handoff?
> This we've measured less carefully, but performance appears to tank far 
> sooner in this scenario too.  Please chime in if you have specific expertise 
> on this technology, but this appears that ZH depends upon low interference on 
> a single channel across the entire handoff 'campus'.   That's a pipe dream in 
> dense condominiums and high-rise office buildings.  It may be OK if you live 
> in a Faraday cage or on a drilling platform in the ocean.  Apart from those 
> scenarios, we've never been "on the fence" as to whether we should use it.
> 
> Now AC on the other hand...  I love me come AC.  Plus, they tend to serve 
> double duty as space heaters.
> -KF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/17/2015 10:37 AM, Zandr Milewski wrote:
>> Be aware, though, the UAP-AC is missing some banner UniFi features.
>> 
>> No Zero-Handoff
>> No Wireless Backhaul
>> 
>> I can't tell if any of the UniFi indoor stuff does the UNII-2e/DFS stuff. 
>> The AC's certainly don't.
>> 
>> On 7/17/15 08:29, David Burgess wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Chuck Mariotti <cmario...@xunity.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> We are having a number of issues with Engenius Access Points... they seems 
>>>> to have the features we need but for some reason, connectivity is not 
>>>> reliable (seems Mac related). As much time as I would like to spend 
>>>> debugging it, it would be cheaper to replace.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for small office access points?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I second both of the previous replies. I use Unifi and Tomato
>>> exclusively for wireless.
>>> 
>>> For budget installs with plenty of features, try Shibby's Tomato on
>>> the ASUS RT-N12 or RT-AC66U.
>>> 
>>> For POE, top aesthetics or mass deployment and central management,
>>> spend a little more on the Unifi.
>>> 
>>> db
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