Hi, Martin, I'm sure that Robert Muench:
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and me:
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We've all ready got a "dialect" for HTML written in REBOL. A lot of
what you've all ready written we've thought about all ready.
We should definitely talk some more!
Andrew Martin
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [REBOL] real powerful hypertext creation!?
> Date: Saturday, 23 October 1999 5:59 AM
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I am currently exploring a new way to generate my web pages.
Currently I
> use the HTML preprocessor hsc on my Amiga 4000. This is about having
to
> maintain a Makefile and its not as flexible as I want and I do want
to
> make a new start.
>
> I followed REBOL for quite some time now and it came to my mind that
REBOL
> and some scripts that I write could do the job. I saw the scripts
that
> build the REBOL webpages. They are already quite impressive, but IMHO
not
> flexible enough. I want to reach the following goals:
>
> - index and content directory creation should be automatic.
> - no manual makefile, it should simply scan a directory for
approbiate
> files recursively, build a site map and the webpage and optimally
also
> manage to upload it to the net.
> - it should be independent to HTML. I want to use a dialect-HTML.r
script
> to provide the translation to HTML. Thus I could easily replace it by
> dialect-XML.r or whatever when the web format changes.
> - it should be quite layout-independent. I only want to specifiy one
out
> of 2-3 possible layouts for each page maybe with one single rebol
function
> - it should transparently support multi-language sites (here two
> languages)
>
> Well thats much, but I won't put away my old solution just for
nothing
> ;-).
>
> In my current approach it could work like this. I write a "make.r"
which
> does all the hard coordination work.
>
> It includes possible dialects and other databases and informations,
and
> then scans the directory for hypertext rebol files. These are normal
rebol
> scripts, maybe with a different filename ending to be recognized
easily.
> They contain all index and meta tag information in their REBOL
headers.
>
> Thus the 1st pass of the make script is to load all those REBOL
headers,
> organize them in a nice tree, and collect them together in one big
REBOL
> data structure. After this pass it could else be written out as
> "sitemap-database.r" or something like that for later reference, but
it
> should stay in memory during creation of the webpage.
>
> This should contains web page titles, short titles, linking
information,
> relative URL and stuff.... to link a internal page I would just like
to
> enter "link "thispage"" where thispage is a magic name for the page
in
> question that is independent from its location in the directory tree.
>
> This is the information gathering pass.
>
> After this there should be the build pass. In this make.r should
simply
> executre all the rebol hypertext script files one after another. One
rebol
> script does only define a variable named "page" or so and put the
desired
> page contents into it. One example (one roughly typed, may contain
errors):
>
> REBOL [
> Title: "Top level index page"
> Pagetitle: "The sun pages"
> Date: 21-9-1999
> File: %index.r
> Author: "Martin Steigerwald"
> Description: "My mighty webpage"
> Keywords: ["Amiga" "The sun pages"]
> Link-Title: "The sun pages - main index"
> blablabla
> ]
>
> page: [
> newpage[Layout: "table1"
> Style: "sun-style"]
> p[deutsch: ["Hallo, Leute, Willkommen auf meiner Webseite. Schaut
euch
> auch diese" link [where: "magicpagename" linktext: "Webseite"] "an!"]
> english: ["Hello, People, welcome on my webpage. Also look on this"
> link [where: "magicpagename" linktext: "webpage"] "!" ]
> contents[Style: "fancy"]
> endpage[Created: "22.10.1999"]
> ]
>
> (Whereas p[] marks a paragraph)
>
> This one should be enough to create a index page for example (I would
even
> like when make.r creates such a index.r file automatically in
directories
> where it doesn't exists;-).
>
> The newpage function just starts a new page, it returns the HTML
header,
> fills in the HTML meta tags, generates the layout and necessary
> indexes (such as link lists on the left or something like this). All
what
> should follow then is pure content.
>
> And I do not want to see one single HTML tag in it. These should be
> generated by dialect-HTML.r functions like "link" using build-tag.
The
> layout should be generated by some other script maybe "layout.r" or
> "page.r" and it should use dialect-HTML.r to be somewhat HTML
independent.
>
> After the word "page" is filled up with the page contents, the
scripts
> returns to make.r and make.r can write the page contents to a HTML
file.
>
> This approach gives me some easy page creation... creating a new page
is
> creating a new rebol hypertext file and typing make.r. Make.r should
> recognize that file and add it to the site map and the approbiate
index on
> the webpage. This is what I call totally dynamic page creation... It
> should however be possible to disable pages by preceeding a "-" to
the
> filename or something like that ;-)
>
> And this approach gives me total flexibility as I can do simple pages
and
> also very complex automatic ones that use REBOL databases and I can
> virtually *program* a webpage contents if everything else is not
flexible
> enough.
>
> So tell me, could this be possible with REBOL, I think yes, but I am
not
> quite sure. Or am I thinking complete nonsense here?
>
> I especially like to know how load all REBOL headers into a single
> datastructure and browse through it. I can load the headers with the
> "load" command, but how do I organize them in a single data
structure?
>
> And how can I easily make REBOL functions which behave somewhat like
HTML
> tags when it comes to parameter passing?
>
> I do not like to say newpage ["table1" "sun-style"] but
newpage[Layout:
> "table1" Style: "new-style"] to be able to add parameters later on as
I
> desire (just like web tags or the tag system of AmigaOS 2.04+ ;-).
>
>
> Any helpful comments appreciated ;-). Anyone wanting to be a
co-developer
> for this stuff?
>
> Or have you REBOL guys already invented something thats is by far
more
> powerful for hypertext creation that I didnt see yet? (Maybe a
top-secret
> REBOL web browser;-)?]
>
>
> --
> Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://helios.home.pages.de
> PGP: http://home.pages.de/~helios/autor/wie-erreichen.html
