Hi Carl. This all sounds really sweet (... multitasking, modules, view, graphics, audio, streaming media, dynamic components, and developer tools ... are you serious?!) ...but... I would simply like to know what REBOL plans to give away for free and if there is any pricing plan for individual users rather than companys. Here are some questions I have: 1. will rebol/view be free for community to use or should we expect costs approx. in same league as rebol/command? 2. Is there any pricing model in works for individual users programming for non-profit? As a student, I suppose I could dish out $50 or so bucks for quality software (for non-profit use without encription)...Are there any additional products (other than core) that I can expect to purchase(at my price budget) or download for free in the future? I love rebol and am excited about all the cool stuff that is being worked on. I also understand that REBOL Tech. needs to make money in order to provide me with all this stuff (and I do hope you make lots of money!)... But in the end, it is just not practical for me to invest time/effort ( I probably will anyway since it is so cool and I am so impractical ... a rebel..) in, say, REBOL/View if it will cost $500 or so. Guess I just want to have quality fun for a cheap price... Will that be possible? What does the REBOL future look like for individual, non-profit users? just wondering... Rishi Previously, you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Let me say something here... > > We are not secretive. We are short on time. Extremely so. With the number of >products we deal with, multiplied by the number of systems they run on, we are >stretched to the max. You're not dealing with Microsoft or Sun here. We are a small >company. The fact that we've accomplished so much to date is because we strongly >believe in what we are doing. > > Since I began REBOL, I have written thousands of pages of docs, tens of thousands of >lines of code, over 100,000 emails, dozens of useful utilities and scripts, hundreds >of web pages, hundreds of examples, dozens of press interviews, and a few articles. >Other members of the REBOL Team have contributed in similar ways, and some of you in >the REBOL community have also contributed. All of you have benefited from these >efforts. > > As a venture backed company that pays its engineers so they can work on their >software designs full time rather than just on weekends & late nights as a hobbyist, >we need to make money. Yes, we believe in our product and we believe in the REBOL >community. Could we do more for our community? I'm absolutely sure that we could. >However, right now, we've got to focus on REBOL the Company. We have to get our REBOL >commercial products finished and into the hands of paying customers. That is the >reality of what we are doing. > > Will these commercial products be of benefit to you, you can bet on it. No, we >won't be giving away REBOL/Express. If you want Express, you'll have to buy it, and >let me warn you, it's not cheap. REBOL/Express serves a critical need in the world >of Internet based business, and we are going to charge for that. However, the >building of REBOL/Express will require additional functions and features be developed >for our core software. Features like multitasking, modules, view, graphics, audio, >streaming media, dynamic components, and developer tools are all essential, and they >will be pushed seriously by commercial REBOL applications. As REBOL grows as a >company, so too will the features of all its products. > > With regard to the specifics of buglists, knowledge-bases, and specs: I'm for it. >But help me out because I don't have the time or peoplepower to do everything for >everybody. Like I said: I've been focusing on YOU for four years now. I've had no >life, just you. Now, you've got to help me focus on REBOL the company. That is >truly the most rewarding path to the future, for all of us. > > A REBOL as always, > > -Carl Sassenrath > Founder & CTO > REBOL Technologies > > > At 10/8/00 08:45 AM -0800, you wrote: > >Hi Ted: > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> On 10/7/2000 at 8:31 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > I do have a sense of deja vu here though.... and I'm wondering if > >> > >> The marketplace won't accept a product without these facilities, which > >> doesn't serve the investor's interest. Everyone publishes > >> knowledgebases and bug reports, including Sun and Microsoft. There has > >> also always been the opportunity to post these at arms-length from the > >> main Web site, at REBOL.ORG, as is done with the list archives, but > >> that has never been done either. > > > >Of course I agree with you Ted. Without qualification. And this agreement > >is > >shared with other folks monitoring rebol's progress. I think there would > >be more > >usage of rebol if they were more forthcoming. Perhaps someone at rebol > >may be reading this. I don't want to name names, but I believe that there > >are > >differening opinions within the rebol team. Hopefully the best judgement > >will > >prevail. > > > >Regards > >Tim > > > >