Hi listadmins,

Many subscribers to wikimania-l received a "You have been unsubscribed from
the Wikimania-l mailing list" email today, despite the fact that we are
certainly still subscribed (and are discussing these false messages
on-list).

Has this happened with any other lists?

--Deryck
wikimania-l listadmin, [[User:Deryck Chan]]

On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 14:30, Deryck Chan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nick,
> This is very clear, thank you.
> --Deryck
>
> On Fri, 2 Sept 2022 at 21:25, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 5:21 AM Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Il 19/11/21 14:00, Amir Sarabadani ha scritto:
>>> > Lots of spammers send spam or virus or phishing emails to
>>> > *-owner@ which mailman happily forwards to listadmins. But your server
>>> > (e.g. Gmail), actually rejects those emails
>>>
>>> For those users, who were presumably happy about receiving less spam,
>>> the probe messages themselves might look like an increase in spam.
>>>
>>> Maybe the probe message could be turned into something that actually
>>> contains useful information, for instance: "If you see messages come
>>> through the mailing list as expected, this may mean that your email
>>> provider blocked some unwanted messages from delivery, for instance
>>> spam: in that case, no action is required". Alternatively, that call to
>>> action "Please examine this message" etc. may be made less imperative.
>>>
>>> However it may not be worth optimising these messages if only few people
>>> are receiving them in spurious cases.
>>>
>>>
>> I get a probe bounce once/month or so, usually for wikitech-ambassadors@
>> After forgetting about this thread, I almost filed a phab task, to ask if
>> we could make the message clearer.
>> But then I re-found this thread, and per Nemo's thought that it might not
>> be worth the effort of a technical change (and thinking about future
>> software-maintenance/translations/etc), I decided to simply document it in
>> a new section onwiki.
>>
>> I haven't marked the page as "ready for translation" yet, in case more
>> edits are needed for accuracy or clarity (please do!)
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration#Mailing_list_probe_message
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