Hi Everyone,

Thank you very much for this information. Of someone who very used to use
mailboxes and knowing of deleting something would give you warning, this
comes to me as a surprise.

It is a profound regret that this has happened. This incident/ concern
almost distracted me in various Wikimania meetings I attend. I truly
appreciate the effort.

Kind regards,
Butch

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 12:47 PM Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]> wrote:

> Risker: Not in all cases IIRC, also generally the UX of it is suboptimal
> but it's getting better. See this upstream ticket:
> https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/545
>
>
> Am Sa., 21. Jan. 2023 um 05:41 Uhr schrieb Risker <[email protected]>:
>
>> I can tell you that there *is* a confirmation requirement before mass
>> unsubscribing everyone, because I almost did it tonight and got a warning
>> message.
>>
>> Risker/Anne
>>
>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 23:37, Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, this is not the first time an admin mistakenly has done this. It
>>> is an issue in the interface that doesn't even ask for confirmation before
>>> mass unsubscribing everyone.
>>>
>>> There was a task for it but I can't find it, if anyone remembers please
>>> send it to me.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Am Sa., 21. Jan. 2023 um 05:03 Uhr schrieb Kunal Mehta <
>>> [email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have reached out to the wikimania-l list admins privately with what I
>>>> found by investigating the server logs[1], it appears that the
>>>> "unsubscribe all" interface was accidentally used and then people were
>>>> silently resubscribed (so it appeared they weren't unsubscribed in the
>>>> first place).
>>>>
>>>> In general, if some data loss happens please please PLEASE reach out to
>>>> the Mailman admins / SRE team as soon as possible, we have much better
>>>> tools like database backups to restore things exactly to the way they
>>>> were. Accidents happen, we understand, it's much easier for us to
>>>> intervene and reset things right after they occur rather than trying to
>>>> piece things together later.
>>>>
>>>> [1] Those with Phabricator security access can review
>>>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T327572>.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> -- Kunal / Legoktm
>>>>
>>>> On 1/18/23 06:07, Deryck Chan wrote:
>>>> > Hi listadmins,
>>>> >
>>>> > Many subscribers to wikimania-l received a "You have been
>>>> unsubscribed
>>>> > from the Wikimania-l mailing list" email today, despite the fact that
>>>> we
>>>> > are certainly still subscribed (and are discussing these false
>>>> messages
>>>> > on-list).
>>>> >
>>>> > Has this happened with any other lists?
>>>> >
>>>> > --Deryck
>>>> > wikimania-l listadmin, [[User:Deryck Chan]]
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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