Tack för feedback! Mycket inspirerande.

Jag rensade upp i texten lite, men har inte lagt till nåt särskilt. Nåt
som borde poängteras (tex PRISM...)?

Quick and dirty clean up:
http://euwiki.org/w/index.php?title=INI%2F2013%2F2063&diff=16466&oldid=16465

//Erik


Original [[INI/2013/2063]]
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Amended [[INI/2013/2063]]

        
        
        
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1. Urges the Commission to take action to further harmonise laws across
the Member States in order to avoid jurisdictional confusion and
fragmentation and to improve the transparency of the digital single market;
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1. Urges the Commission to take action to further harmonise laws across
the Member States in order to avoid jurisdictional confusion and
fragmentation and to ensure transparency in the digital single market;

        
        
        
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2. Calls on the Commission to review other EU legislation to address
gaps related to cloud computing; calls, in particular, for the revision
of the intellectual property rights regime, the Unfair Commercial
Practices Directive, the Unfair Contract Terms Directive and the
E-Commerce Directive, which are the most relevant pieces of EU
legislation that apply to cloud computing;
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2. Calls on the Commission to review all EU legislation related to cloud
computing;

        
        
        
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3. Calls on the Commission to establish a clear legal framework in the
field of copyright content in the cloud, especially with regard to
licensing regulations;
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3. Calls on the Commission to establish a clear legal framework for the
cloud, especially with regard to fundamental rights;

        
        
        

        
4. Stresses that, owing to uncertainties regarding applicable law and
jurisdiction, contracts are the main tools for establishing relations
between cloud providers and their customers, and that there is therefore
a clear need for common European guidelines in that field;
        
        
4. Stresses that, owing to uncertainties regarding applicable law and
jurisdiction, contracts are the main tools for establishing relations
between cloud providers and their customers, and that there is therefore
a clear need for common European guidelines in that field;

        
        
        
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5. Calls on the Commission to work together with the Member States to
develop European best practice models for contracts, or ‘model
contracts’, that will ensure complete transparency by providing all
terms and conditions in a very clear format;
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5. Calls on the Commission to work together with the Member States to
develop European best practice models for contracts to ensure transparency;

        
        
        
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6. Calls on the Commission to develop, together with stakeholders,
voluntary certification schemes for provider security systems which
would help to harmonise practices across cloud providers and which would
make clients more aware of what they should expect from cloud service
providers;
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6. Calls on the Commission to develop, together with stakeholders, free
and open source software, in particular for providers of security
systems, which would help to harmonise practices across cloud providers
and which would make clients more aware of what they should expect from
cloud service providers;

        
        
        
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7. Stresses that, owing to jurisdiction problems, European consumers are
in practice unlikely to be able to seek redress from cloud services
providers in other jurisdictions; calls therefore, on the Commission to
provide adequate means for redress in the consumer services area, since
there is a strong imbalance of power between consumers and providers of
cloud computing;
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7. Stresses that, owing to jurisdiction problems, European consumers are
in practice unlikely to be able to seek redress from cloud services
providers in other jurisdictions; calls therefore, on the Commission to
provide legal means for redress in the consumer services area, since
there is a strong imbalance of power between consumers and providers of
cloud computing;
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8. Calls on the Commission to ensure a speedy implementation of
Alternative Dispute Resolution and Online Dispute Resolution and to make
sure that consumers are equipped with adequate means of collective
redress against security and privacy breaches as well as against illegal
contract provisions for cloud services.
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Parltrack link: http://parltrack.euwiki.org/dossier/2013/2063%28INI%29
        
        
Parltrack link: http://parltrack.euwiki.org/dossier/2013/2063%28INI%29


On 08/28/2013 09:25 AM, Staffan Jonson wrote:
> Hallå
> Ja, det budskap jag ser i texten i ditt mejl är egentligen en begäran om
> att centralisera och öka regelverken för cloud computing. Utökad
> (europeisk) lagstiftning och centralisering är inte alltid förenligt med
> idéer om ett användarstyrt Internet.
> Jag tror att det behövs en bättre definition av vad man vill åstadkomma
> (än begreppet cloud computing) innan man börjar tala lagstiftning.
>
> Som Mats skriver kommer begreppen "copyright content in the cloud" lite
> väl ofta för att det ska vara bekvämt.
>
>
> Godkänner man den här formuleringen:
> "...and the private copy levy must take into account the development of
> new technologies,Š"
> så har man i praktiken redan godkänt förekomsten av, och centraliserade
> regler för, kassettskatten (copy levy).
>
> Idag pågår en stark offensiv när det gäller en utökad kassettskatt, men
> den sker i alla fall decentraliserat ( i resp. MS).
> Decentraliseringen bidrar åtminstone till att söndra den offensiven.
> "copyright content in the cloud" syftar nog till att stärka det arbetet.
>
> Några funderingar
> :-)
> Staffan
>
>
>
> Den 2013-08-27 19:48 skrev Mats Henricson <[email protected]>:
>
>> Lite spridda kommentarer nedan.
>>
>>> //2. Calls on the Commission to review other EU legislation to address
>>> gaps related to cloud computing; calls, in particular, for the revision
>>> of the intellectual property rights regime,
>> Ja, här isar det ju till i tänderna lite. Jag får intrycket att
>> mycket av hela denna cloud push är för att försöka skaka fram
>> så många europeiska patent som möjligt inom detta område, vilket
>> ju inte är något lovvärt.
>>
>>> the Unfair Commercial Practices Directive,
>> Vad i jösse namn nu detta kan vara...
>>
>>> the Unfair Contract Terms Directive and
>>> the////E-Commerce Directive, which are the most relevant pieces of EU
>>> legislation that apply to cloud computing;//
>>> //
>>> //3. Calls on the Commission to establish a clear legal framework in the
>>> field of copyright content in the cloud, especially with regard to
>>> licensing regulations;//
>> Jesus, märgen fryser till is här.
>>
>>> //4. Stresses that, owing to uncertainties regarding applicable law and
>>> jurisdiction, contracts are the main tools for establishing relations
>>> between cloud providers and their customers, and that there is therefore
>>> a clear need for common European guidelines in that field;//
>> Nej nej nej, collaboration and trust är mycket viktigare.
>> Dags att läsa agila manifestet, tror jag:
>>
>> http://www.agilemanifesto.org
>>
>>> Cloud computing has a huge potential and should provide benefits for
>>> business, citizens and the public sector1 but, as a new model of
>>> networked computing, poses some legal and contractual risks. Among other
>>> concerns, such as security or supplier lock-in, there is major concern
>>> among both service providers and users regarding the lack of
>>> standardisation which would be required for a single market across
>>> Europe, the diversity of relevant legislation across Europe, currently
>>> unclear contract provisions and the lack of clear rules on intellectual
>>> property rights (IPR).
>> Här kommer detta med IPR igen. Jag har sjukt svårt att se
>> relevansen här. Jag sysslar med mjukvara, och har väldigt
>> svårt att se vad IPR har med det hela att göra. Annat än
>> att ANVÄNDARE av molnet kan spara sina piratkopierade filmer
>> där.
>>
>>> Recent research shows that 48 % of managers in both the private and the
>>> public sectors are aware that the implementation of cloud computing can
>>> speed up and facilitate their work. More than half of them have not,
>>> however, introduced any procedures to minimise business risks such as
>>> identity theft.
>> What? Identity Theft? Hurdå? Om de deployar sina applikationer
>> själva, på egna servrar, så blir det halvbra gjort. Om de
>> deployar sina appar i molnet så har de hundratals säkerhets-
>> experter som inte har annat för sig än att se till att deras
>> moln inte kan hackas.
>>
>>> The biggest threat in the cloud are so called Œinsiders¹, those working
>>> in the establishments providing cloud services, who have access to
>>> customer data, followed by other tenants of the service provider in the
>>> cloud, notably in case of a breakdown of isolation mechanisms.
>> Ja, kanske det, men det är inte sant att de som äger moln har
>> access till sina kunders data. Så är det ju inte om datat är
>> krypterat hos kunderna hela vägen ut i molnet. De snyggaste
>> exemplen på det är ju:
>>
>> * http://www.wuala.com
>> * https://leastauthority.com
>>
>>> The EU digital single market remains fragmented due to differing legal
>>> regimes among the Member States, and when it comes to IPR only a limited
>>> level of harmonisation has taken place in the wake of the Copyright
>>> Directive. Action must therefore be targeted to address the issue of
>>> cloud services that depend on a uniform IPR regime to cross borders. The
>>> proposals on collective rights management and the private copy levy must
>>> take into account the development of new technologies, in particular
>>> cloud computing services, and clarify the rules for securing IPR in a
>>> digital environment.
>> Jag osäkrar min browning, nu!
>>
>> Mats
>>
>>
>

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