Focas, Grant wrote:

In general though, I find the popups=evil argument a bit flawed. Take as
an example a page which has a list of 25 cars for sale.



YES LETS DO! Lets take carsguide.com.au as an example, though admittedly they have more than 25 cars for sale listed.

So I load up a car page and search for cars. There is a list of 25 (or so) cars that have fit my criteria on the first page and at least a few more pages with a continuation of the listing.

As I run through the first page, I'll see a car I want and middle click it to get more information. As this page is still loading in it's own tab in the background, I will continue to run through the list and middle click each car that I think is interesting.

At the end of the list on the first page, I will click on the link to go to the second page of cars that meet my criteria.

While this new page loads, I turn to the other tabs I have been loading in the background. With the crazy javascript pop-up crap, absolutely nothing appears in those windows.

*ABSOLUTELY NOTHING -- as in white screen of death*

This goes against my natural way of surfing. It means I have to close quite a few empty pages, and click the back button on the tab with the list, and hope it re-loads properly. Sometimes, I have to re-start my search.

This is entirely frustrating. Guess how often I return to those sites?

Its built by people expecting users who are stuck in MIE 5.0-6.0 that doesn't have tabs. With MIE 7b2 on the way, with a tabbed-browsing environment, more and more users will follow this sort of path.

Kat

Most pop-ups really are evil. As far as I am aware, most screen-readers still have difficulty dealing with pop-ups, though others on this list would know more about that than I.



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