On Aug 31, 2006, at 5:23 PM, Chris Williams wrote:

"Let us become weary of this thread, for at the proper time we will give
up reading it." Chris 8:31:06

I agree (even though I'm the propagator). :)
This was enlightening, fun and way too long of a thread.

I think there's been some good concepts that've come out of it though.

Felix - I appreciate your championing the rights of users (along with all the fantastic technical data about fonts on the web that I've referenced many, many times) - I hope though, that you can temper that when approached from the commercial side of web design.  A corporation's branding and identity are paramount to their success - remove the text from a Coca-Cola sign and people will still instantly recognize it.

I hope that I haven't come off as trying to say that I think visual designers should have the absolute run of the web.  My position remains that site author's main responsibility should be constructing their pages/applications/whatever-they-put-on-the-web in the most semantic, clean and valid way that they can, and retain visual control.  Browser vendors and users should share in the responsibilities: browser vendors by supplying easy to use and understand tools for giving user's control over how they view and perceive content on the web, and users by taking the time and effort to learn and utilize those tools should they require them.

Cheers everybody

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