>> In other words sharing a problem you should solve with the visitors. <<

Nothing was shared except solutions mate - I realize the thought that framesets might be useful has shocked you - but it's true! lol

In our situation we had a really nasty application integrity problem. Here's the problem -

1. Online system for a leading car manufacturer
2. Some users (car dealerships in very remote locations) on < 64k connections 3. If users click before page fully loaded, they get a event validation exception (bug in .NET framework 2.0)
4. Connections are not 100% robust / some pages don't get there
5. Business wants a 100% bullet proof solution

So, using a frameset to marshal / handle weird partial load issues in the inner page gave us an easy
**standards compliant** solution to the problem.

The end result is optimal user experience, even for this sad minority of Outback Ute sellers, and that's what pretentious utopian HTML snobbery is all about - loving your visitors.

: )









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