On the statement of people requesting the pop-ups....

You're right, many people do request them, but this is typically based on past experience and believing that a popup is the only solution. As the developer, its your job to either a) do what ever the client wants, including using popups, or b) advise them of the pitfalls of the technique.

I personally replaced popups withe one of the many lightbox flavors out there - if its images you want to popup, your covered - same with a little content. The nice thing about that technique is that it falls back to a regular link if javascript support is not there.

I have never tested the lightbox effect on screenreaders - I have no idea how it comes across. On PDA's etc, the link is just followed with no effect so it works fine.

My  2 cents,

Joe Taylor
http://sitesbyjoe.com

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We consistently encounter problems with popup windows during user testing,
usually because the user does not realise that a new window has opened. There
are then two problems; firstly the Back button doesn't work, but also it is
common for the popup not to contain any navigation. The result is confusion.

We see this a lot with screen reader users. Even though the screen reader does
inform the user that a new window has opened, we find that the user often does
not notice this warning because they are listening for the page title, number
of links and heading etc.

It is also a big problem for screen magnifier users. At anything over x3
magnification it is common for the popup to fill the whole window, and this
can happen at lower magnification levels with large popups. The user has no
way to know that they are now looking at a new window. When they scroll to the
extremes of the page they may see the main window behind the popup but they
can see so little of the page that they usually do not realise that it is a
separate window.

Steve Green
Director
Test Partners Ltd / First Accessibility
www.testpartners.co.uk
www.accessibility.co.uk


Chris Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Alex Billerey wrote:
Does this help any?

http://www.accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/

Look for the link for the pop-up window generator.

It doesn't actually because the generated html includes a target attribute.

David answered my question but the issue it leaves me with is: many people find pop-ups very useful and often request them. What are the problems for people with javascript enabled browsers?

Kind Regards





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