opps decided that I may be applying the responses to this thread personally. I 
do realize that the answers do apply to all, especially those who do have a 
need to convince clients.

My stance was leaning more toward the general website building population. Mom 
and pops who want and do build their own sites.

Although there are plenty of website builders who promote their website 
business that don't care nor bother. 
Said major "fusser" on the google fuss, is a web designer who promotes building 
websites for a fee. 

Gosh he made a remark that he would not mislead clients............


Sharron

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