On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 12:59:18PM +0000, Barney Carroll wrote: > If anything, I'm suggesting markup content that's 'stronger' than alt > tags. Removing significant text content is not my game at all.
I can't see any suggestion in the specification that so much as suggests alt text has any less weight than regular text. > I think there's been a horrible misunderstanding somewhere. I don't > think anybody in this conversation has made any false moves as regards > accessibility. Pretty much every image replacement technique has accessibility problems, most often in the scope of Images Off/CSS On situations, but often in others as well. > I am talking about visual content defined by CSS that isn't in the scope > of <img>s, yet may need alternative text content for those without > visual reference... Which can be handled in a great many ways, and could > be handled in many more (CSS is constantly evolving, I'm not suggesting > anything's being coldly ignored by the powers that be). 'Images' is a > very limited way to address many visual semantics a designer may wish to > incorporate into a site, and occasionally those semantics may be > arguably crucial rather than additional - in which case some clever use > of markup/styling is needed. The thread started with discussion of a header image, and the focus has been very much on how to include images, so I think if we are going to expand the discussion beyond that then we need to clearly identify what is being discussed. I'm afraid that I'm having a hard time coming up with examples. > As much as this sounds like dodgy territory, I don't think the > practical examples I suggested way back in the thread (unorthodox > styling in headers) caused that much of a problem (apart from the > invalid <div> within <h1>). If they did, please refer back to them > (all observations are useful!) - but I fear we're getting rather > vague and argumentative here. As I think I mentioned at the time, they have a number of drawbacks that cause some users to get either no content, or visible text overlapping the image. Those drawbacks don't appear when using an img element with alt text (since that is what alt text is designed for). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
