The universitys and tafes are usually taught by lecturers who have no formal 
understanding or knowledge themselves about web standards etc. It also is hard 
for them to change the content of their units as they usually get revised every 
5 odd years, also the lecturers are not paid for study and revising the units, 
they only get paid for class time. So why should they do extra unpaid work for 
ungrateful students???

btw incase your wondering im not a lecturer - lol...
I have raised this issue with my previous lecturers and they informed me of 
these government standards on lecturers




>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/01/2007 10:02:12 am >>>
Doesn't the ACS (In Australia) claim to be our peek standards body? (Also
assuming that Web Dev comes under the "Computing" banner). Wouldn't they (or
somebody like them) be the ones to issue a certificate? (One look at their
web site will tell you how seriously they take web standards.)

What about all the Uni's and various training centres offering certificates
in one thing or another. But then how many web developers have ever actually
"studied" web development specifically? It's something most people learn on
the job.

As long as there is no accountability in the industry, we can cry all we
like about certification and standards, but the "tag soup+tables shop"s, as
Ben said, will always underbid us, and get the jobs. They just don't care,
and there's no reason for them too. They aren't accountable.

Lucien.


On 25/1/07 11:31 AM, "Seona Bellamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 25/01/07, Jermayn Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> So would making web designers get a "certificate" of some kind fix this
>> problem??
>> 
>> 
> Not if it existed out there all on its own. I think for it to have any real
> effect, it would have to be backed by some sort of governing body and
> probably have some sort of legal standing as well. Medical practitioners
> must be certified and registered, or they can't legally practise medicine
> (in a lot of countries, anyway). Unless you did something similar for web
> developers, I really don't see how it would take.
> 
> The problem isn't just coming up with an exam and a certificate. The problem
> is you have to have businesses believing that it is a MUCH better idea to
> hire somebody with that certificate than someone without, even if that
> someone else is charging half the price. Otherwise, the bottom line will win
> out every time.
> 
> That's my take on the matter, anyway....
> 
> 
> ~Seona.
> 
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