On Aug 20, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Nicholas Bergson-Shilcock wrote:
On Aug 20, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Robert Marianski wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:30:46AM -0700, Rob Miller wrote:
Robert Marianski wrote:
I'm forwarding this to the listen dev list, since it seems more
appropriate here.
Listen always sets the Reply-To header to the mailing list.
Currently
there's no way to toggle that.
But we can certainly add a way to toggle this. I'm not sure if
we'd want
to expose this through the ui though. There are other settings
that I'd
put into this category as well. Maybe an advanced settings section?
i'm not necessarily averse to putting this in the UI... i've been
on a lot
of mailing lists over the years, and their reply-to behaviour is
something
about which people can get fairly religious at times, it's not a
bad knob
to expose. the whole listen UI could use some love anyway.
even before that, though, i'd say we should change the default
behaviour.
i think the ideal default would be for 'reply' to go to the list,
and
'reply-all' to go to the list, the original senders, and any
other To: or
Cc: recipients. i'm not very familiar w/ how mail clients interpret
message headers, though... anyone know if there's a way to tell
clients
that this is the desired behaviour?
-r
Ideal default is up for debate, which is why it's become so
religious. :)
Some would argue that reply should go to just the sender, and
reply-all
tacks on everybody.
There's an rfc that talks a little bit about this (section 4.4.4):
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc822.txt
I'm not sure why reply-all in some clients doesn't add in
everybody. I'm
able to choose with mine. Maybe there's a setting in clients that
controls that.
Listen sets the Reply-To header to the mailing list itself. This
explains why replying goes to the list. It doesn't look like the rfc
specifies anything at all about reply to all behavior. It does
mention
that Reply-To should supersedes sending to the from though.
I'm not sure we can get the behavior that Rob mentioned above, but
if we
removed the Reply-To header, then most clients would have reply go to
just the sender (not including the list) and reply to all would
set the
To with the sender and cc the list. Currently reply sends a
message to
the list.
+1
This is the default for the non-listen lists I'm on. It's arguably
not ideal, but it's a heck of a lot better than having 'reply-to'
and 'reply-to-all' both go to the mailing list, as is presently the
case.
+0
This change would be a significant disruption to all current listen
users. I think before making this change it might be worthwhile to
do a little survey of popular list apps, like Google Groups, mailman,
Yahoo groups, etc. to see what is the standard. Once finding this, I
think it makes sense to emulate it even if it creates a disruption.
Chris
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