Good thread, thanks for the info...


On a side but related note, and for the CUs, the download notice indicates "this hotfix has not undergone full testing.". At what point are you comfortable with deploying to your production sites?


We're just standing up a new R2 site, and figure go straight to the latest! Regards, Al

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 03:08 PM, ccollins9 wrote:

@Jeff Spengler,


These links to MS's website explain it more.  I am going to look into using the SCUP method instead of messing with and figuring out x86 vs. x64, etc.


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/907423 <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/907423> http://blogs.technet.com/b/jamess_configmgr_blog/archive/2012/02/11/installation-of-configmgr-client-hotfixes-during-client-installation.aspx <http://blogs.technet.com/b/jamess_configmgr_blog/archive/2012/02/11/installation-of-configmgr-client-hotfixes-during-client-installation.aspx>  



Also, I forgot to mention, using the package MS gives you produces this in the execmgr.log, which in turn treats the install as a failure because the upgrade causes ccmexec.exe to restart.  So, yeah, probably the least best way of deployment IMO. With an application, it would use the deployment criteria to check for actual installation afterwards and report correctly.



Running "C:\Windows\ccmcache\2d\ccmsetup.exe" /noservice SMSSITECODE=AUTO with 32bitLauncher execmgr 4/30/2015 2:57:47 PM 49104 (0xBFD0)

Service stopped while program Configuration Manager agent silent upgrade is running execmgr 4/30/2015 3:04:16 PM 58384 (0xE410)

OpenProcess failed for process 45504, error 80070057 execmgr 4/30/2015 3:04:16 PM 58384 (0xE410)

Can not continue monitoring the program after service restart because the process exited.  Assume failed execmgr 4/30/2015 3:04:16 PM 58384 (0xE410)













On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:18 PM, ccollins9 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Remember, I am not only deploying CU4, but I am also deploying the upgrade for the R2 client at the same time.  Slipstreaming an update into the initial install of an application is usually preferable to most people, otherwise we as admins wouldn't be bending over backwards to often find ways of doing it for various MS products.  Their also wouldn't be blog after blog on technet explaining how to do it.

I get that MS provides a CU4 package, but I really don't understand why everyone is being so dogmatic about using it when we all know that applications are better in most every way.  Just because MS provides us the bare minimum to update the clients (packages), it doesn't mean we can't that and improve it.  Packages are archaic and require babysitting and many times redeployment or recurring deployment.  I stopped using them years ago.

I do like the SCUP idea, I am going to look into that as well because using Software Updates would afford the same level of automation.



 



On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Azeem Patel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

As metioned earlier CU4 update on server creates a deployment package.

If you want to do in controlled manner, few systems at time. THEN


Create collection for CU4 update and deploy CU4 package on the collection.
moving systems set by set for installation.






On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:05 PM, ccollins9 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Thanks Justin!


On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Justin Chalfant <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:












Guide here:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/jchalfant/archive/2013/06/23/installing-configuration-manager-sp1-cumulative-update-2-patches-using-scup.aspx <http://blogs.technet.com/b/jchalfant/archive/2013/06/23/installing-configuration-manager-sp1-cumulative-update-2-patches-using-scup.aspx>


 



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From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ]
On Behalf Of Jason Sandys

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:28 AM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: RE: [mssms] 2012 R2 CU4 update





 

Because it’s a patch and not an application. Honestly, the best option for this is SCUP and Software Updates because that’s designed for patches.

 

J

 

From:
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On Behalf Of ccollins9

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:34 AM

To: mssms

Subject: Re: [mssms] 2012 R2 CU4 update

 



Yeah, I know it creates those packages.  I don't like using packages when I can avoid it. I'd be curious to know why MS has the CU4 installer create packages instead of applications, but that's now really germane to this discussion.



 





I got it figured out---seemed to be just an issue with that one test machine.  I ended up rolling the patch into the install/upgrade with (ccmsetup.exe PATCH=xxxx) and having the application's detection criteria check for both the R2 productID
 and the 5.0.7958.1501 (CU4) patch level.





 





http://blogs.technet.com/b/jamess_configmgr_blog/archive/2012/02/11/installation-of-configmgr-client-hotfixes-during-client-installation.aspx <http://blogs.technet.com/b/jamess_configmgr_blog/archive/2012/02/11/installation-of-configmgr-client-hotfixes-during-client-installation.aspx>





 





It's working well so far on other machines and I get the added benefit that if it fails it will retry because it's an application.







 



On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Mawdsley R. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:







Yes, providing you selected the option when you upgraded the server, it would have automatically created client (and server) update packages for you located under:  Software Library>Application Management>Packages>Configuration Manager Updates.

 

Just deploy these (remember to distribute), it’s what they are there for
J.

 



 

You could even make device collections with a query to automatically show you what machines
 have or have not been upgraded.

 

Rich

 

From:
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ]
On Behalf Of ccollins9

Sent: 29 April 2015 23:33

To: mssms

Subject: [mssms] 2012 R2 CU4 update

 



This has been kicking my butt all day.  Our system was SCCM 2012 SP1.  I upgraded the site server to 2012 R2 CU4. I now need to update the client systems



 





I know I can do automatic upgrade, but I also want to create an application for the new client to target machines during a maintenance window before turning on
 automatic updating.





 





I created an application basically just using the same install command that the built-in update package uses after installing R2.  I have the detection criteria
 set to look for {8864FB91-94EE-4F16-A144-0D82A232049D}.





 





Anyway, it's doing something I've NEVER seen in all my years working with SCCM 2012.





 





The application starts and I'm viewing the AppEnforce.log:





 







"Waiting for process 6920 to finish.  Timeout = 15 minutes"







 





And there it sits, FOREVER. Long past the 15 minute timeout.  ccmsetup.exe is tied to process 6920 in this case. It starts, uninstalls ccmexec.exe, reinstalls it, then ccmsetup.exe closes, meaning process 6920 closes from the list of running processes.  Yet there it sits.  So the client is successful, but it never seems to "finish" properly.  My initial thought is that it is getting messed up because it's the client and it's reinstalling, so who knows how that will make the logs look to me. I knocked down the timeout down to 15 minutes to at  least see if it terminates itself with an error, but no, it just sits.





 





How are others deploying UPGRADES to SCCM 2012 R2 clients?  And for that matter, how are folks handling the subsequent client update to CU4? 





 





Are y'all just using the built-in packages and hoping they work? I wanted to try it as an application because:





 





A. it would check for failure and try again until it was successful





B. I created an app for the R2 upgrade and another one for the CU4 patch, then made the CU4 patch application depend on the R2 Upgrade application





 





Am I just making this all harder on myself?





 





Thanks!





 





 





 





 



 

 



















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