To risky. Only works if PXE/USB are on top of the boot order.

 

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2015 21:49
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] Switch to UEFI during OSD

 

Hm, have to think about that :)

 

-roland

 

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2015 10:23
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Switch to UEFI during OSD

 

ah right for required task sequences, well i guess that too could be reset with 
a web service call in the prestart, 

 

 

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Michael Niehaus <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

PXE has a safety mechanism to prevent boot loops:  After the first time the 
machine is booted via PXE, it will not do so again without manually resetting 
the flag.

 

Thanks,

-Michael

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:37 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Switch to UEFI during OSD

 

why wouldn't it work with pxe, just embed whatever logic you need in the boot 
wim and away you go...

 

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Roland Janus <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

That’s what I meant. But that wouldn’t work with PXE boot. It would with USB 
though.

But still, the TS, or the boot media, hence the TS in my case would need to 
start twice.

 

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Dienstag, 19. Mai 2015 22:58
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Switch to UEFI during OSD

 

no, it's not a ts, it's a prestart (before a ts) which would detect if legacy, 
and if so, change to uefi, reboot and then on with normal business.

 

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Roland Janus <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Doesn’t that reboot also mean the TS, with the prestart, has to run again?

That would be an issue with a required TS and PXE boot.

 

-Roland

 

 

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Dienstag, 19. Mai 2015 22:26
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Switch to UEFI during OSD

 

What’s the magic part here, that it is in prestart?

I can get HPs to switch to UEFI with a command line, but I think doing it in a 
single TS is the hard or impossible part.

Would prestart help here also?

 

-Roland

 

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 
Sent: Dienstag, 19. Mai 2015 16:50
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Switch to UEFI during OSD

 

Dell - Internal Use - Confidential 

Dell IT has worked out a Legacy -> UEFI solution using the Dell PowerShell 
Provider.  Bill Moore blogged about it here - 
http://www.billamoore.com/2014/05/16/easy-legacy-efi-dells-powershell-provider/ 
 

 

Thanks,

 

Warren

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 11:58 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Switch to UEFI during OSD

 

Overall, it’s a painful thing to do – most people who ask want to do this as 
part of an OS refresh, preserving user data and settings at the same time 
without moving data off of the system.  We don’t recommend even trying – just 
keep the system running legacy BIOS emulation until it’s replaced (or until you 
“reclaim” the system for redeployment).

 

If you just want to automate the switchover (and destroy the contents of the 
drive later), it’s a little easier, but still vendor-specific (to modify 
firmware settings).

 

You would only want to consider this for Windows 8 logo-certified devices 
(those running UEFI 2.3.1 or higher), since previous UEFI versions were way too 
flaky.  

 

I would also start thinking about this as a point-forward change:  Stop 
deploying Windows 7 systems using legacy BIOS emulation if you are planning to 
upgrade or refresh them to Windows 10 sometime within the machine’s lifetime.

 

Thanks,

-Michael

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 9:49 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Switch to UEFI during OSD

 

i've thought about it and perhaps you could build some type of script to run 
before the prestart even, which checks for UEFI and if not, set's the bios to 
UEFI (lenovo and others have scripts for that), then reboots to the correct 
mode before allowing you to select a UEFI mode task sequence

you'd have to use something that kicks off before the task sequence engine, 
like this 
<http://www.windows-noob.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12277-updated-script-how-can-i-check-for-network-connectivity-storage-before-starting-a-task-sequence-in-system-center-2012-r2-configuration-manager/>
 

i have not tested it but i believe it will work for some hardware at least, the 
key is that it would be a script that is not task sequence aware, that runs 
before your task sequence and involves user input of some sort (to make the 
decision)

 

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:07 AM, Jason Sandys <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Correct. There have discussions on this by Tim Mintner, Keith Garner, and 
Michael Niehaus and the conclusion is that this is not possible in an 
unattended manner or with a single TS.

 

J

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 5:02 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [mssms] Switch to UEFI during OSD

 

Anyone tried that?

 

Switching the BIOS to UEFI with a command line isn’t the problem, but doing 
this as part of OSD might be.

Refresh using hardlinks can’t work, but anyone tried switching to UEFI during 
OSD for baremetal?

(That of course would lead to a mix of legacy and UEFI installations)

 

Assuming the computer is currently configured to use Legacy bios mode, that 
seems like a chicken/egg problem.

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




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