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On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Rankin, James R <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>> Sounds like my assertion that half the world's sysadmins are crying out
>> for a decent Java
>> ​replacement
>> solution is correct...
>>
>>
>> -------
>>
>> James Rankin | Director | TaloSys | 07809668579
>> Sent from my Blackberry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Maglinger, Paul" <[email protected]>
>> Sender: <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 19:54:57
>> To: '[email protected]'<[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>>
>> Updates would be fine... if they didn't break things.
>> Reminds me of when we put in our latest Cisco IP Telephony solution.
>> The phone system wanted me to upgrade my Java but then Cisco's web site
>> wouldn't work with that version.
>> *thunk* *thunk* *thunk*
>> I LOATHE Java...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 2:34 PM
>> To: ntsysadm
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>>
>> Updates of Java? Hell no.
>>
>> Some of our users somehow get Java fubared, and when ADP can't find Java,
>> they tell the user to install 6u29, so I've put in an exception in our AV
>> to block the download,
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> > Nope, if they did I would be pushing hard to replace it.   Have they
>> gotten
>> > any better at keeping up with updates?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 1:28 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > To: ntsysadm
>> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Your users don't file their timecards with ADP, then...
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Kennedy, Jim
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > 2 depends on Oracle, Chrome has been begging them for it for some time.
>> > From Chrome’s perspective 1 and 2 are the same. That said, I honestly
>> > do not think Firefox has any plans to discontinue NPAPI support. Their
>> > approach is disabled by default….user beware if you enable it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Anecdotal but I can say that most of my users use Chrome, and they
>> > have not missed Java.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Damien Solodow
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:49 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Doubtful; I see one of two things happening:
>> >
>> > 1)      Oracle blinks and releases an updated JRE that doesn’t use NPAPI
>> >
>> > 2)      Chrome includes its own JRE like they did with Flash
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > DAMIEN SOLODOW
>> >
>> > Senior Systems Engineer
>> >
>> > 317.447.6033 (office)
>> >
>> > 317.447.6014 (fax)
>> >
>> > HARRISON COLLEGE
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Melvin Backus
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:44 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > So if I’m reading this correctly that would seem to mean that all the
>> > thousands (millions?) of pages with Java embedded are going to be
>> > relegated to IE only?  (And JAVA will finally DIE? Albeit a slow and
>> > lingering death.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>> >          those who understand binary and those who don't.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 10:41 AM
>> > To: ntsysadm
>> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Not Java specifically - the NPAPI interface.
>> >
>> > So is Firefox, and so will Edge...
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Interesting.  I didn’t realize that Chrome was doing away with Java
>> > functionality.  Thanks for the update.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 5:12 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Demand for this in Chrome will dwindle to zero in September when there
>> > isn’t any way to run Java in Chrome.  It’s already dwindling….we did
>> > not bypass the block in the last patch for Chrome that disabled it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of James Rankin
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:08 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, FSLogix confirm that currently the Java remediation only works with
>> IE.
>> > You can restrict other browsers on a process basis only currently, so
>> > you could force Chrome or Firefox to a specific Java version by
>> > process, but not by URL.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > However, support for other browsers is on the roadmap. Any customer
>> > demand (probably someone coming along with 5000 users and wanting it
>> > to work in
>> > Chrome) will “drive the roadmap forward”, i.e. they’ll do it ASAP if
>> > there’s a big enough sale at the end of it J
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > JR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of James Rankin
>> > Sent: 03 June 2015 18:56
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, I tried to test with Chrome and found out that Chrome has disabled
>> > just about all the plugins from the websites I was using for testing L
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Waiting for an answer from FSLogix support as I now have to put the
>> > kids in the bath!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Jonathan Link
>> > Sent: 03 June 2015 18:44
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Probably not pants.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, James Rankin
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Let me get you an answer on that…maybe something I should have tested
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
>> > Sent: 03 June 2015 17:22
>> > To: '[email protected]'
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > So, it looks like FSLogix only works with IE?  Is that true?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of James Rankin
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:16 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, quick and dirty run-down, but I’m sure you can all get the gist of
>> > it
>> > (hopefully!)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/fslogix-first-look-1-manag
>> > ing-legacy-or.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> > Sent: 02 June 2015 17:38
>> > To: ntsysadm
>> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes, please put up the link here when done.
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:43 AM, James Rankin
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I shall endeavour to finish this as soon as possible then!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Maglinger, Paul
>> > Sent: 02 June 2015 16:12
>> > To: '[email protected]'
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Me too!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Paul
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Sean Martin
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:07 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Definitely interested.
>> >
>> > - Sean
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:08 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > What you need is FSLogix Java Rules Manager, only allow the vulnerable
>> > Java version to be seen when a specific URL is visited, otherwise –
>> > it’s invisible to the user and OS, and the latest version is used.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I’m writing an article up on this today, if anyone’s interested in
>> > Java version management (on a sysadmin list, who isn’t?)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > J
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
>> > Sent: 02 June 2015 14:51
>> > To: '[email protected]'
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Update Java?  That’s just crazy talk.  We’re still at 7u51, with no
>> > roadmap in place to go any higher.  Not my choice, btw, it is
>> > development issues with Oracle.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Ed Ziots
>> > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:48 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nice.strategy
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> > On May 29, 2015 9:31 AM, "Robert Strong" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ensure you have the latest patches installed for Java and Flash.
>> > Exploit kits like Angler, Nuclear and Magnitude are starting to
>> > distribute Ransomware more frequently via drive-by download attacks
>> > and malicious advertisements on common websites.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > We’ve had several ransomware incidents in the last few months all due
>> > to unpatched systems. Host based detection is limited at best, but one
>> > thing I have noticed in all incidents seen is that the malware
>> > typically uses hxxp://ipinfo.io/ip to determine its public facing IP
>> address.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > We have created correlation rules that detect users going to this
>> > domain via our McAfee ESM SIEM, we then have an alarm that fires when
>> > that correlation rule is seen and we can automatically apply an ePO
>> > tag to enforce a policy that severely ‘disables’ the system (no R/W to
>> > network shares, restricted HTTP/HTTPS going out). Our alarm also
>> > e-mails out some key characteristics about the infected machine for
>> > easy identification by our IT Service Desk team.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ransomware isn’t going away and it’s going to get worse. We’ve been
>> > able to detect these IoC’s and have the issue remediated in under 7
>> minutes.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob Strong
>> >
>> > Information Security Specialist
>> >
>> > Equitable Life of Canada
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of David McSpadden
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:17 PM
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > That's mine today.
>> >
>> > What variant was yours
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >
>> > On May 28, 2015, at 7:14 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > We had that the other day.  The files are getting encrypted, but the
>> > extensions are not getting changed.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Jonathan Link
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:37 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The text files created should indicate the affected user with the
>> > Owner attribute, no?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:30 AM, David McSpadden <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am pretty sure I have pc with this on it in my network.
>> >
>> > I have ran scans on workstations.
>> >
>> > I still do not see it but I have the tell tale signs.
>> >
>> > The HELP_DECRYPT files in network folders.
>> >
>> > The word and excel files not being able to be opened etc.
>> >
>> > How do I remove something that Trend is not seeing?
>> >
>> > Nor Windows Endpoint protection?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > David McSpadden
>> >
>> > Systems Administrator
>> >
>> > Indiana Members Credit Union
>> >
>> > P: 317.554.8190 | F: 317.554.8106
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