Cost is the factor probably making it not doable: No budget, thats it. On the other hand, people are on a different budget or are even considered free, so taking that time and configuring QoS all over the world may easily win even if it actually costs more.
Who hasnt seen that? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Donnerstag, 4. Juni 2015 01:08 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mssms] BITS Is cost the only reservation in going with a commercial product that adds value above that of a free product? What about the concept of a "freemium" model, in that - for free -, you have limited functionality or licenses? If there is need for more than what the freemium model allows, then at that time you pay e.g. like SQL Express. 1E | Software Lifecycle Automation On Jun 3, 2015, at 11:47 PM, Roland Janus <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Yes, but it cost money and it needs maintenance and if it just means deploying once to all clients. I would be happy enough if QoS can do it half as good. 80/20. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Mittwoch, 3. Juni 2015 23:09 To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [mssms] BITS ...one of the reasons it's "Reverse" QoS is because Nomad governs itself. Nomad is a gentlemen on the network...it concedes to other traffic i.e. business traffic being more important than itself. It's this example of what the algorithm Nomad is built upon, is all about e.g. Business Prioritized Network. Nomad makes a strong case for the network team to no longer enforce QoS policy restrictions on ConfigMgr. No need for "additional" QoS policies to be enforced when Nomad is already governing itself. When there is an intelligent agent running on all endpoints - that is constantly protecting the business traffic from system management traffic -, there's simply no need for traditional QoS. Not just any agent will due, however...but an intelligent agent is the only one that's fit for the job. 1E | Software Lifecycle Automation On Jun 3, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Ed Aldrich <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: At the risk of poking the 2Pints, Brings me back to QoS. Give me lowest priority, but if the road is clear, give me everything is exactly the concept behind what we do quite successfully with our Reverse-QoSTM technology in Nomad.... works on millions of endpoints in some of the largest in the world. Ed Aldrich | Solutions Engineer <http://www.1e.com/> 1E | Software Lifecycle Automation for the Digital Business Mobile: (401) 924-2293 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] | <http://www.1e.com/> www.1e.com <image001.png> Ent Cli Mgmt (2003-2015) <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e?utm_source=Email%20Signature&utm_medium= Email&utm_campaign=1E%20Corporate%20Email%20Signature> LinkedIn | <https://twitter.com/1e_global/?utm_source=Email%20Signature&utm_medium=Emai l&utm_campaign=1E%20Corporate%20Email%20Signature> Twitter | <https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal?utm_source=Email%20Signature&utm_medium=E mail&utm_campaign=1E%20Corporate%20Email%20Signature> Facebook | <http://1e.com/googleplus?utm_source=Email%20Signature&utm_medium=Email&utm_ campaign=1E%20Corporate%20Email%20Signature> Google+ | <https://vimeo.com/1enews?utm_source=Email%20Signature&utm_medium=Email&utm_ campaign=1E%20Corporate%20Email%20Signature> Vimeo | <http://www.1e.com/blogs/?utm_source=Email%20Signature&utm_medium=Email&utm_ campaign=1E%20Corporate%20Email%20Signature> Blogs | <http://www.1e.com/blogs/feed/?utm_source=Email%20Signature&utm_medium=Email &utm_campaign=1E%20Corporate%20Email%20Signature> RSS From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Janus Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 2:59 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] BITS Dont use BITS config in CM, thats what Ive taken. Ive configured values in the GPOs but I guess it is basically either set to low or too high, never right. Brings me back to QoS. Give me lowest priority, but if the road is clear, give me everything. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Leuthold Sent: Dienstag, 2. Juni 2015 18:55 To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mssms] BITS I'm not sure what BITS is lacking because I've never taken the time to fully understand ALL of its capabilities and features. I assume that's documented on TechNet :). I'm also not certain to what extent ConfigMgr utilizes BITS from server-side CM components to client side. Or maybe CM today has superior technology than BITS? -Stephen On Jun 2, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Phil Wilcock <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: La la la Yeah of course that is all true BUT. It would be nice to have something over nothing From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld Sent: 02 June 2015 08:43 To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] BITS We talked about this senior *sigh* so many times. This is a wet dream that will never come through. Gonna open up a can of worms with this but here it goes. The ONLY way (and the other vendors will tell you different with their mumbo-jumbo technology) you can tell how much bandwidth you got on a pipe is to try to cram as much data through as possible for a period of time. WAN software today is very sophisticated and will allow bursts etc. for periods of time depending on certain scenarios. Far more superior people have done many hours on this subject: The A**shole project, sorry Assolo, got some very interesting reading: http://netlab-mn.unipv.it/assolo/ Think of it like answering this question, how fast can you go on a certain road? //A From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: den 2 juni 2015 09:29 To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] BITS Haha wasnt expecting that Roland :) My number 1 is Accurate end-to-end bandwidth calculation.. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld Sent: 02 June 2015 08:18 To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] BITS Oh man!!! :) //A From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Janus Sent: den 2 juni 2015 08:29 To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] BITS Make it work better? Make it work like OneSite? :) From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld Sent: Montag, 1. Juni 2015 22:25 To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [mssms] BITS Hey, Got an upcoming meeting with the BITS dev team, anything that you guys see missing that should be fixed? Or something that you never found the answer too? 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