It's all about inheritance - if the share doesn't have full control
set for some set of users, then the ability of those users to take
ownership on the files/directories underneath won't work, when
accessed through the share.

Kurt

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Matthew Topper
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On the share? I didn't think the actual share even had an owner the way the 
> folder did.
>
> Matthew Topper
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Rankin, James R
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> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] permission/ share life lesson
>
> And take ownership permission, IIRC
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Topper <[email protected]>
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> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 15:13:01
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> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] permission/ share life lesson
>
> I didn't think so.  I had this question earlier and found this:
>
> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc784499%28v=ws.10%29.aspx
>
> Full Control
>     Full Control is the default permission that is assigned to the 
> Administrators group on the local computer. Full Control allows all Read and 
> Change permissions, plus:
>
>         Changing permissions (NTFS files and folders only)
>
>
> Matthew Topper
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Dave Lum
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] permission/ share life lesson
>
> For general share level perms I use "Authenticated Users - Change", unless a 
> special device like printer or something needs to hit it in which case I use 
> "Everyone - Change". I then use NTFS to lock down everything underneath it. 
> IIRC when using ADUC and specifying a user home directory (I use GPO now and 
> not this) I think that folder had to have <domain\user> - Full control at the 
> share AND NTFS, but it's been a few years...
>
> I try to keep Share level perms simple and use NTFS to get granular. And I 
> feel for those inheriting environments where user accounts are in the ACL and 
> not groups. A couple of %dayjobs% ago it was so bad that when it came time to 
> move to new storage it was far easier to nuke, pave and create groups and 
> redo the ACL's than to try and figure out what was where.
>
> Doesn't "Authenticated users - Full" allow anyone that's authenticated to 
> rename the share itself?
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Michael Leone
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 6:44 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] permission/ share life lesson
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Rankin, James R <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> But you wouldn't ever want to change the share perms, at least not in my 
>> experience, once they're set once they're set forever.
>
> That's what we do. Share permissions are "Authenticated Users" Full.
> And then use AD groups on the NTFS permissions - 1 group for RWXD, 1 for RO.
>
> Since security is the more restrictive of the 2, all we have to worry about 
> is AD group membership.
>
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