It's the sccm service mode 
functionality<http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrteam/archive/2012/11/26/managing-embedded-devices-with-write-filters-in-configuration-manager-service-pack-1.aspx>...
  I can see where they were going in that you want to minimize the stuff that 
can and would get done if you just turned the write filter off and then 
rebooted back to the OS and to a user's desktop in the event you are using an 
autologon account.  *BUT* if you are gonna pop up that service mode, you better 
darn well do your business, turn the write filter back on, committing change 
and get the device back up to a usable state.  Otherwise you are leaving 
unusable devices everywhere.  You might want to even incorporate some sort of 
status information to that lock screen so the user knows it is doing update 1 
or 1 and will be back to a usable state in 5 minutes... The documentation says 
to use maintenance windows to administer them but in a 24x7 operation, it's 
super difficult.  You get into the questions about how many do I schedule at a 
time?  Do I set all devices with ip ending in 1 to have a window this day at 
this hour? And rotate through???  Can't just say say 12a-2a is the maint time 
across the board...  that's peak time for some parts of the hospital...  HEAVY 
administrative burden to break it all out
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Krueger, Jeff
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 12:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mssms] RE: windows embedded

Hmm... interesting, I wonder if there's just something missing in the OEM's 
embedded image build?  You might want to try building a ThinPC image and 
running that through your same testing and see how it responds.  You can deploy 
the ThinPC image on regular hardware.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marable, Mike
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:38 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: windows embedded

I have a screen shot of the screen that somewhere if interested.

I don't know if this is the way it works or just one of those things we somehow 
"broke", but when the device has the write filter turned off and users are 
locked out, domain users with administrative rights could not log into the 
machine.  It seems that only a local administrator account would work.

Again, learning as we go along.

I also heard back from our HP tech.  He did not know what the patches from 
Microsoft were (KB article numbers, that sort of thing) and that we would have 
to contact Microsoft about them.

Mike



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Krueger, Jeff
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 9:23 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: windows embedded

I've built out a Window ThinPC image which is the same as windows embedded, in 
my testing things work well with handling the write filter when deploying 
software. What are your specific concerns about the admin mode?  When the write 
filter is turned off, it restarts the machine then puts up a screen notifying 
users that the device is under maintenance (don't remember the exact verbiage) 
and only an administrator can then log on to the device until it's completed.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marable, Mike
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 9:11 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: windows embedded

Yes, we're getting started with it (W7E) here.

We've been told by the hardware vendor that there are "many" issues with SCCM 
and the Enhanced Write Filter out of the box and that Microsoft has a number of 
SCCM patches for both the server and client sides that will be needed.  The 
vendor said to open a support case with MS to get those patches because they 
are not publicly available.

This is all from the vendor's mouth.  They couldn't say what the patches were 
exactly just that we need to call Microsoft and request them.  Nice, right?  I 
don't believe our SCCM team has gone to Microsoft yet about these mysterious 
patches but I can check.

We are just getting started though, so we're learning as we go along.

Mike


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jimmy Martin
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:08 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] windows embedded

anyone out there use windows embedded clients (utilizing write filter) with 
sccm client in a healthcare setting or other HA type setting?  Just looking to 
learn through your experience with sccm client and write filter manipulation 
and maintenance windows, etc. gotchas...

the part I want to minimize is how when the write filter is disabled and how 
the cm client sets the logon screen to being locked in admin only mode...



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