No. SUM is only to apply the updated CB to existing systems – no customization 
possible although it is an in-place upgrade so nothing will be lost and it will 
be customized per your initial deployment of the system. Basically, you can 
treat the CB update like anyone update once you get to v.Next. Pre- v.Next, 
you’ll have to use a TS to perform the in-place upgrade on existing systems. 
This is why ConfigMgr 2012 technically doesn’t support Win10 CBB and only 
supports LTSB.

J

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Johns, Damon (DoJ)
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 3:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

So if I understand this correctly in a scenario where you create and deploy a 
custom reference image.

I have computers running a Custom Windows 10 Reference Image Build 10240 
deployed using SCCM 2012 R2 SP1.

If I want to apply a feature update then I can create a new Custom Windows 
Reference Image 1511, Build 10586 and use an OSD Upgrade Task Sequence with 
SCCM 2012 R2 SP1.

If I were to have vNext I would be able to use Software Update Management to 
deploy this custom reference image.

Is this correct or is this entire process restricted to using Microsoft ‘s 
vanilla released ISO’s?

Cheers
Damon

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Saturday, 14 November 2015 7:18 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

Which is what I said earlier ☺

Thanks,
-Michael

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:14 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

to answer Damon's original question, I got the following information confirmed 
from the PG,

"This update with the new classification “Upgrade” can be sync’d down from WSUS 
after the hotfix is applied if the “Upgrade” classification is checked 
explicitly. However, only vNext client can complete the end to end installation 
successfully since this Windows 10 Upgrade is in a different format and 
requires special handling on the client side.  Without vNext, the install will 
fail.

OSD Upgrade Task Sequence is still the recommended way to upgrade to Windows 10 
via the current versions of ConfigMgr (excluding vNext) as these versions 
actually do not support Windows 10 upgrade via Software Update Management.”

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Michael Niehaus 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There’s no way to change the time.  You can however use the “Disk Cleanup 
Wizard” (run it elevated) to remove it sooner.

Thanks,
-Michael

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Jerousek, Jeff
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 8:52 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

Does anyone know where this is located?

We would like to change the amount of time.

Thanks,
Jeff Jerousek

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Russ Rimmerman
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

I believe it’s 28 days (at least it was in 8.1, assuming it’s the same in 10.)

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 8:29 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

There is an automatic maintenance task that will delete windows.old after 2 two 
weeks (I think that’s the time frame – Mike can certainly correct me here).

J

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 6:26 AM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

I was just thinking about this.  It’s a 1-2 hour update that will change a 
bunch of stuff.  Then we have to deal with the Windows.Old folder. One of our 
big programs we use here has taken the approach of supporting what the current 
build is at the time of release.  This is fine if we upgraded it every couple 
years, but we upgrade to 2 or 3 service packs a year.  We have the big yearly 
one that keeps us up with our suppliers and customers as far as versions, and 
the SP are to fix all the issues.  This is going to suck…..

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:19 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

You would need to create a new image, or you deploy the old one and then 
upgrade it (each time).

You can’t install 10240, upgrade it to 10586 (1511), then sysprep it – sysprep 
will detect the upgraded OS and fail.

Thanks,
-Michael

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johns, Damon (DoJ)
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:13 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the response, if you have created a custom Windows 10 Build 10240 
reference image I assume that you cannot deploy this servicing build using an 
in place upgrade with a task sequence using the Microsoft ISO… I almost don’t 
need to ask, but I would like to be absolutely sure.

Thanks,
Damon

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Friday, 13 November 2015 5:56 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

With ConfigMgr 2012 or 2012 R2, you can deploy this using a task sequence 
(http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrteam/archive/2015/06/16/revised-content-for-the-win10-in-place-upgrade-via-task-sequence-for-configmgr.aspx<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fblogs.technet.com%2fb%2fconfigmgrteam%2farchive%2f2015%2f06%2f16%2frevised-content-for-the-win10-in-place-upgrade-via-task-sequence-for-configmgr.aspx&data=01%7c01%7cruss.rimmerman%40microsoft.com%7c3709d63355c74d3bfad408d2ec36f37e%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=G8%2bBr8HhzkWFfhZWDghpNWUiNuQUIwNEXK3Mhc9PaaM%3d>).

With ConfigMgr vNext, you can deploy it using Software Updates, but behind the 
scenes it will install the same way (in-place upgrade).  The same will be true 
of WSUS (with the needed hotfix) in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks,
-Michael

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johns, Damon (DoJ)
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:10 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Re: Windows 10 Upgrade to version 1511, 10586? Confused

Even more confused now!

Does this mean I can deploy the current November release using Software Updates 
or is an in place upgrade or new reference image required?

It would be nice if there was some clarification from Microsoft prior to its 
release!

Cheers
Damon

Config Manager
Patch management in Config Manager is performed with software update, but this 
feature will only allow you to deploy servicing updates. Feature upgrades must 
be deployed through the inplace upgrade task sequence. So here too, you are at 
full control and can deploy new build when ever you want.
As I told above, this situation will only persist for the Threshold release 
because Microsoft will only support the first two release of Windows 10 on 
Config Manager.
Future releases will only be supported on SCCM vNext (this also means that SCCM 
vNext should be available somewhere during the next 8 months!) and will allow 
to apply feature upgrades without using a task sequence in a new functionality 
called Windows 10 
servicing<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fblogs.technet.com%2fb%2fconfigmgrteam%2farchive%2f2015%2f10%2f14%2fnow-available-october-update-for-system-center-configuration-manager-tp3-.aspx&data=01%7c01%7cruss.rimmerman%40microsoft.com%7c3709d63355c74d3bfad408d2ec36f37e%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ou807RWQ4NRELsIl2pX4i7KYP62F%2bT27LLbHMqK7eOY%3d>.
May I add to the list that SCCM vNext has itself a “feature upgrade” like 
mechanism<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fblogs.technet.com%2fb%2fconfigmgrteam%2farchive%2f2015%2f09%2f23%2fnow-available-update-for-system-center-config-manager-tp3.aspx&data=01%7c01%7cruss.rimmerman%40microsoft.com%7c3709d63355c74d3bfad408d2ec36f37e%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=nJo7oB%2b5fmcJzrQZ7Mid57c20Vz4efJTHlxw5Nb2bR4%3d>
 to allow faster delivery of new functionality, with (of course) end of support 
times… so if Windows 10 annual upgrade was not enough for you, you should 
really love to know that SCCM vNext must at list be refreshed every 12 
month<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2fjarwidmark%2fstatus%2f663877026852417537&data=01%7c01%7cruss.rimmerman%40microsoft.com%7c3709d63355c74d3bfad408d2ec36f37e%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZItFnQ1R%2bAsTcIOkRuQ9hPLRJ%2bsy2jfT%2f58po2iXko0%3d>…
…Ok, I suppose some of you may ask if there is not something a bit less… 
disruptive… yes there is (sort of)…
http://www.osd-couture.com/2015/10/windows-threshold-as-service-what-does.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.osd-couture.com%2f2015%2f10%2fwindows-threshold-as-service-what-does.html&data=01%7c01%7cruss.rimmerman%40microsoft.com%7c3709d63355c74d3bfad408d2ec36f37e%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=7KI0TNqN5Z6LLMKdJ%2bDYwcflUy48WLdk7wzkCbQdtDQ%3d>



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