That would be why we configured it with 56 enabled rules with 264 disabled 
rules for reporting purposes.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of justin stradley
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal


That makes perfect sense. Thanks Ed!




Justin R. Stradley

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on 
behalf of Ed Aldrich <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:02 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal


SWM doesn't scale terribly well due to demands placed on the CfgMgr database if 
there are a lot of active rules enabled... its generally used actively on a 
small handful of key/expensive apps that need extra monitoring due to license 
implications... for that small subset of the total it works well



Ed Aldrich

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of justin stradley
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 4:14 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



I'm not doubting anyone, but can someone explain what the downsides of software 
metering are? I was planning on using it to assist a customer in removing 
unused licensed applications.



Thanks,



Justin R. Stradley

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on 
behalf of Daniel Ratliff <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:49 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



No, this is last time used. If the software gets removed, it was still used on 
X date and time by X user and will still show in the view.



Daniel Ratliff



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Augustine, Greg
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 3:38 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



Ok, if the software is removed does it remove it from this view?



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:23 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



Yes, I think natively its part of asset intelligence.



Daniel Ratliff



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Augustine, Greg
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 3:20 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



Is this being pulled in with HW inventory?



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 1:55 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



Personally I recommend v_gs_ccm_recentlyusedapps. Its simple, and not a pain in 
the butt to write a report on.



Daniel Ratliff



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:47 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



He's gonna say metering sucks and there are plenty of ways to do this without 
metering.



Not that there aren't valid reasons for metering but simply determining if 
something is used is not one of them.



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        John Marcum

            MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
              Desktop Architect

   Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Augustine, Greg
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 1:38 PM
To: '[email protected]' 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



Go for it, looking for input.



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Aldrich
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



Oooohhhhh...



Can I SAY it??? :)



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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Augustine, Greg
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:55 AM
To: '[email protected]' 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [mssms] Software Metering and software removal



I would like all of your thoughts on software metering and collections to 
automatically remove software.  We have built collections like the below that 
give us the information but when we run the removal it does not seem to update 
the information.  I am assuming that it is related to the software inventory 
update cycle.





select

SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceID,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceType,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Name,SMS_R_SYSTEM.SMSUniqueIdentifier,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceDomainORWorkgroup,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Client

from SMS_R_SYSTEM

INNER JOIN SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile ON SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.ResourceID = 
SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceID

INNER JOIN SMS_MeteredFiles ON SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FileID = 
SMS_MeteredFiles.MeteredFileID

INNER JOIN SMS_MeteredProductRule ON SMS_MeteredProductRule.RuleID = 
SMS_MeteredFiles.RuleID

WHERE SMS_MeteredFiles.RuleID = 16777399

AND DateDiff(day, SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.ModifiedDate, GetDate()) > 60

AND SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceID NOT IN

(SELECT DISTINCT SMS_MonthlyUsageSummary.ResourceID

FROM SMS_MonthlyUsageSummary INNER JOIN SMS_MeteredFiles ON 
SMS_MonthlyUsageSummary.FileID = SMS_MeteredFiles.MeteredFileID

WHERE DateDiff(day, SMS_MonthlyUsageSummary.LastUsage, GetDate()) < 60 AND

SMS_MeteredFiles.RuleID = 16777399)





We have also look at the following query to see if it work out better, which it 
does run fast thru SQL.



select

SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceID,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceType,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Name,SMS_R_SYSTEM.SMSUniqueIdentifier,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceDomainORWorkgroup,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Client

from SMS_R_System

inner join SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile on SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.ResourceID = 
SMS_R_System.ResourceId

inner join SMS_G_System_COMPUTER_SYSTEM on 
SMS_G_System_COMPUTER_SYSTEM.ResourceID = SMS_R_System.ResourceId

where SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FileName = "snagit32.exe"

and SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FileVersion like "11.%"

and SMS_R_System.ResourceId not in

(select SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceID

 from SMS_R_SYSTEM

inner join SMS_MonthlyUsageSummary on SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceID = 
SMS_MonthlyUsageSummary.ResourceID

INNER JOIN SMS_MeteredFiles ON SMS_MonthlyUsageSummary.FileID = 
SMS_MeteredFile.MeteredFileID

 WHERE DateDiff(day, SMS_MonthlyUsageSummary.LastUsage, GetDate()) < 90

AND SMS_MeteredFiles.RuleID = 16777399)

and SMS_G_System_COMPUTER_SYSTEM.Name not in

(select SMS_R_System.Name

from SMS_R_System

inner join SMS_G_System_LastSoftwareScan on 
SMS_G_System_LastSoftwareScan.ResourceId = SMS_R_System.ResourceId

where Datediff(day, SMS_G_System_LastSoftwareScan.LastScanDate, GetDate()) > 3)



What are you all using to do software removal base on software that is not used?



Greg Augustine

Office of Administration

Information Technology Services Division

301 W. High St.

Jefferson City, MO  65101

Office No:  573-751-4714

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