Sounds like a job for SCORCH.
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John Marcum
MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
Desktop Architect
Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Russ
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 4:46 PM
To: mssms <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] Patching servers with SCCM
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. It would be nice if things were
sort of moving in SCCM like they are in SCOM where you start to define the
application, rather than the individual servers as much. So I could define the
"Sharepoint" group for example, and I would be able to put all the servers in
that group. Then it would have the intelligence when patching or whatever, to
patch servers in certain order, at a certain time. Or if there is software you
want to push to one server, it knows that if that server needs to be rebooted,
it needs to boot these other two servers (or restart services, etc).
At a previous place, we would use startup scripts that if a particular server
got rebooted, it would reboot app tier servers because of that. But it would
be nice if you had almost the concept of a task sequence across servers...
maybe that's what Orchestrator is for... I unfortunately don't have as much
experience with that.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Sherry Kissinger
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We have several different server teams, and each have their own ways of doing
things. In 1 case; where there is literally a tech for each server (those
servers run something super critical, so those servers get 1:1 attention),
patches are deployed to them "with no deadline"; and the techs interactively
login, and select patches to install, and reboot when they can do so. Do I
think it could be automated? yes. but those people are paranoid. :)
We have another team which pretty much has everything scripted; ADR's +
Maintenance windows on 10 or so collections (I think it's a mash-up of timezone
and function, to split up install and boot times). They just monitor that it's
going as expected via reports emailed to them from SSRS. I don't think they've
been in the actual console in months...
and another team in between--but that's because the strange things they have to
support; often they have to "skip" a particular type of update and/or do more
rigorous testing, so they have an ADR... but then have to usually tweak what's
inside it. They still use Maint. Windows; but are more hands-on in the console
with what's in the Software Update Group.
But that's the beauty of ConfigMgr: you can be 100% human touch, or the extreme
opposite, with everything automated. It just depends what your needs are.
On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:46 AM, "Mote, Todd"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We’ve been patching about 400 servers for a number of years that range from
domain controllers to exchange, SQL, and everything in between. The TL;DR is
“Maintenance Windows are your friend.”
We have about 100 collections that are nothing more than maintenance window
collections that servers get put in. I don’t admin all of them so the local
admin lets us know what window they want and the server goes into that
collection. Nothing is deployed to these collections, they only apply MW’s.
We have separate collections where things get advertised to, like Software
Updates. Each deployment has its own settings about whether to ignore or
respect maintenance windows. Every deployment is always set to be available as
soon as possible and deadline as soon as possible if it’s set to respect
maintenance windows. Then, at the MW time, it patches and reboots.
Our exchange 2010 environment is about 30 servers, CAS’s start patching on
Thursday mornings and the mailboxes patch on Sunday mornings, the rest are
scattered around between them and their windows don’t overlap. Domain
controllers patch one a night over a week. If servers have clusters or some
failover requirement we work with the server admin to set up automated
processes to occur 10 minutes before the window begins to move resources from
node to node to facilitate patching. We do this for failover clusters and FSMO
roles on DC’s.
If you have services that are resilient, and Microsoft doesn’t break anything
with bad patches, patching servers is pretty easy, not much different than
clients, to be honest. In fact, if you give clients maintenance windows too it
works out great, everybody knows when their computers will reboot, but that’s
another discussion.
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
On Behalf Of Duncan McAlynn
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 3:46 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Patching servers with SCCM
I have just a little experience in this… ;-)
Honestly, I would strongly recommend taking a look at Infront’s OPAS solution
that can make this almost a no-brainer. It really does help remove all the pain
points you’ve talked about addressing. You can learn more at:
http://www.infrontconsulting.com/opas
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Russ
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 5:00 PM
To: mssms
Subject: [mssms] Patching servers with SCCM
We've been patching our servers with WSUS up until this point, but we'd like to
move over to SCCM. I wanted to get an idea on how people are handling their 2
and 3 tier applications? Currently we have a number of different windows to
patch the SQL servers, then app tier, then web tier or whatever. But what I am
hoping is to make things a bit more well defined (and to start building
collections for various applications and that sort of thing.)
Do you suppress reboots on servers, and then send out a script for rebooting?
Do you make maintenance schedules which would cause reboots in certain order?
Do you patch or reboot manually? What sorts of methodologies do you deploy?
It would be nice to put a process and methodology in place so that it's not
reinventing the wheel for every individual group of servers.
We don't currently have SCCM in place for servers, so that's all new as well.
So we sort of have a unique opportunity to start fresh.
Would appreciate any feedback or ideas you have give me.
Thanks, Russ
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