Heh,
No I would just make sure they knew my point of view on how irresponsible the 
lazy mentality was.


Cut corners where you can if it make sense, when it doesn't matter, earn the 
money you are paid where it does, right?

jlc

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LOL....



"I know how I would respond to someone under my helm..."



Does it start (or end) with "GET OFF MY LAWN!"?



:)



Thanks,



Jonathan



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Seriously,
Given the potential (even if rare) downside to this, I would never consider it.

I'd also focus on the short sighted approach for which could lead to a business 
interruption and highlight that.



In other words, so he wants to be lazy for like 5 minutes worth of work only to 
potentially impact business continuity? Now how does the idea sound?



I know how I would respond to someone under my helm...

jlc



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Happy New Year to the collective!



I know this has been supported since at least 2008....and sounds like it has 
improved with each iteration since.



However, I am old school and have *never* been a fan of any kind of in-place 
upgrade. Further....



The very first sentence in Microsoft's TechNet article Upgrade Domain 
Controllers to Windows Server 2012 R2 and Windows Server 
2012<https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh994618.aspx#BKMK_UpgradeWorkflow>
 , updated less than a year ago:



"The recommended way to upgrade a domain is to promote domain controllers that 
run newer versions of Windows Server and demote older domain controllers as 
needed. That method is preferable to upgrading the operating system of an 
existing domain controller."



That being said, I've got an admin (junior to me) who seems to think it is a 
good idea (because he wants to cut a corner). I and another peer (also a senior 
engineer) disagree with him.



Regardless, I'm curious if anyone here has tried this and if so what your 
experience was?



Thanks,



Jonathan





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