I had it sort of explained to me now.

All of our hardware comes with a license for Windows. So basically we have a 
mix of domains with various sccm. Then we have office on every pc and other 
products we license individually.

We outsource MOST of our IT support (so we don’t have to train and care less 
about innovation).

So at the end of the day – EA costs us money because we are basically getting 
little out of it because of the above.   That make sense?

From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Burke, John
Sent: February-17-16 5:32 PM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements

“I have all the details if you want them but basically xxx has avoided over 
$35M in the past 6 years by buying out their Enterprise License Agreement. They 
were paying close to $6M annually for maintenance.

xxxx avoided $1.7M annually and xxxx was close to $2M.”

It’s pretty hard to argue with that ☹

Maybe I’ll contact one of those companies below, but I’m sure management could 
just say – we saved the money because we didn’t upgrade or take advantage of 
most of the stuff in those agreements.


From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Burke, John
Sent: February-17-16 3:45 PM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements

That is 150% the way management works here.

From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: February-17-16 3:44 PM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements

Speaks “Management”, LOL.

IME, the key phrase is “long-term” savings. Many management types aren’t 
concerned with the long-term, just the short-term so that they can get their 
bonuses for this quarter. I’ve seen this happen multiple times.

J

From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:34 PM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements

MS can send someone who speaks Management speak in to show them the numbers. 
I’d guess that they are probably very badly out of compliance right now or they 
would know that they are spending boat loads of money


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        John Marcum
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              Desktop Architect
   Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Burke, John
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements

Powers that be don’t that and It’s not been articulated to them in  a way they 
would understand it.

I wouldn’t be able to explain it either myself why it would cost more in the 
long run either.  I’ve not see anything documented that would hint at that 
either to even put the bug in their ear.

From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:24 PM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements

+1

To take out an EA for 30,000 users would be LOTS of money. In the millions of 
dollars…. To not have an EA and have 30,000 users is probably going to cost 
triple that in the long run.

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        John Marcum
            MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
              Desktop Architect
   Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Juelich, Adam
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:29 AM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements

+1

What he said.

Over the past few years Microsoft has changed several things with licensing 
that has usually made it more affordable for companies to have an EA with SA.  
You may be able to get this license based on FTE (Full Time Employee 
Equivalent) and save quite a bit of money.

I'd recommend working with a company that deals with licensing specifically to 
help you get what you want at the best price.  We work with SoftwareONE on 
that.....



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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
In my opinion, if you’re in a company of 30,000 clients, and you’re not in an 
EA with SA, you’re just asking for trouble.

From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Burke, John
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:10 AM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [mssms] SCCM and SA Agreements

Hi folks,

I’m here as part of a smaller company that just got eaten up by a large company 
that doesn’t have an SA with Microsoft thus, can’t upgrade to 2012 without 
significant cost.

I’m wondering how many on this list don’t have enterprise agreements?

I’m also wondering why they are so against an SA because of cost.  Are they 
that expensive to get for say 30000 system/ users  and isn’t it offset by the 
tools you automatically get access to via MDOP and so on?

Any input would be appreciated. I’d love to be able to get back to point that 
all the sub companies and domains could all get on the same Tech for imaging, 
software deployment and so on.




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