Looks great, Mike.  Can you add some commentary about
battery chemistry or some such?


--- Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What the differences in batteries? Isn't a battery a
> battery? Why 
> should I spend $160 for an Optima Yellow Top when my
> local auto parts 
> store has a battery with more power for half the
> price?
> 
> Lots of questions there and the answers are more
> complex than they 
> first seem.  Let's try to break it down a little.
> 
> Battery Types:
> Just as you don't buy a Prius to tow a trailer and
> you don't buy a 
> pickup because of its great gas mileage, you don't
> buy a starting 
> battery for your electric motorcycle.  Let's start
> by dividing types 
> into two categories, Application and Construction.
> 
> Application can be further broken down into three
> sub-categories: 
> starting (or automotive), marine, and deep-cycle. 
> Construction can 
> be broken down into three sub-categories too:
> flooded, gelled, and 
> absorbed glass matt (AGM).
> 
> Application:
> Let's look closer at the Application sub-categories
> starting with 
> automotive. These are most often called starting
> batteries because 
> that's what they do. These simply turn your car on
> and can deliver a 
> lot of power for very short periods of time and they
> can not stand to 
> be discharged very much (between 2 and 5 percent). 
> Think about it 
> like this, as soon as you turn your key, huge
> amounts of power go the 
> starter in your car. Once the car is started it
> charges the battery. 
> Lots of power but can't be run down very much.
> 
> Marine batteries are the bastard children of
> starting and deep cycle 
> batteries. They don't put out as much power as a
> starting battery but 
> they can be discharged quite a bit more (up to about
> 50%).
> 
> Deep Cycle batteries are what we want in our
> electric motorcycles. 
> These are designed to be discharged to almost empty
> (about 80%) but 
> they put out about 20% less power than a starting
> battery. Do not let 
> that last part fool you. These still put out enough
> power to kill you 
> if you don't treat them with respect.
> 
> Construction:
> No let's take a look at how some batteries are
> constructed.  We'll 
> first look at flooded. These are probably what most
> people think of 
> when they think big batteries because most starting
> batteries are 
> flooded. Not all flooded batteries are starting
> batteries however. 
> Floodies (in lingo) can be marine and deep cycle
> too. They have lead 
> plates hanging in liquid acid. Flooded batteries can
> slosh around and 
> spill their acid and they generally have to be kept
> upright to avoid 
> such unpleasant events. Some, but not all, flooded
> batteries require 
> maintenance to keep the acid PH at the right level.
> 
> Gelled batteries contain acid that's had Silica Gel
> mixed in. This 
> turns the acid into Jell-o like substance that
> you'll never see Cosby 
> trying to sell on TV. A big advantage gelled has
> over flooded is that 
> gel stuff doesn't leak out.  On the downside, you
> can't charge them 
> very quickly. If you have a gelled deep cycle
> battery in your 
> electric motorcycle and try to charge it too fast
> the gel can break 
> down, 'cook off' and toast itself.
> 
> Absorbed Glass Mat or AGM are what most of use
> because they can be 
> positioned in pretty much any conceivable position
> and can be charged 
> in a hurry. The acid in an AGM is held in a
> Boron-Slicate glass mat. 
> This is nice because you can't spill them like you
> can a flooded but 
> its still a liquid so you don't have to worry about
> damaging the gel. 
> Sound pretty good? The problem is price.  AGMs run
> as much as 3 times 
> what floodeds do.
> 
> So no, not all batteries are the same.  Each has a
> tole to play and 
> forcing one into a role for which it wasn't designed
> can be as 
> painful as watching George Lazenby play James Bond
> in 'On Her 
> Majesty's Secret Service'.
> 
> Below are some links with much more detail that I've
> provided:
> 
> The Ultimate FAQ for  Deep Cycle Battery Basics and
> Information - 
> http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm
> Car and Deep Cycle Battery Faq -
> http://www.batteryfaq.org/
> Electric Vehicle Battery Information -
> http://www.madkatz.com/ev/battery.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> The Electric Motorcycle Portal
> http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/
> 
> Electric Motorcycle Listserv
> http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
> 
> 


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