As a datapoint, I've used a 1978 Honda Goldwing GL1000 (had a 1,000 cc 4
cylinder, water cooled gas engine).
It originally weighed 500 lbs, and was 250 lbs after the engine, radiator,
gas tank and transmission where removed.
Because it's a touring bike, it is designed to carry an obscene amount of
luggage, its GVW is rated as 1,010 lbs.
So after adding a 50 lb electric motor, and about 25 lbs of cables and
controller, and one 225 lb rider, it comes to 500 lbs.
This leaves me up to 510 lbs for batteries,  50% the total vehicle weight if
I don't want to leave any safety margin.

I've often read here that car conversions try to have 30% of the total
vehicle weight in batteries.
I'm not sure if that scales down to motorcycles, which have poor
aerodynamics.

Mike-

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Sri Subramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Hi everyone,
>
> I am a newbie in this vocation, and I am considering what bike to buy for
> this project.
>
> I've read the 'El Ninja' book, listened in on your conversations and
> checked out conversions on the Austin EV site, and it looks to me like I
> need to pick a bike with these criteria:
>
> [I am assuming that the bike I convert won't be freeway capable, so about
> 50 mph max and < 50 mile range max]
>
> 1. Light, light, light. Trim as much as possible.
> 2. Minimal rolling resistance (and won't hurt to be aerodynamic as well).
> 3. Have enough space under tank for batteries (I am thinking LiFePO4, so
> not too much worry there).
> 4. Modern (so decent suspension, brakes) and common make, model (so parts
> easy to get).
>
> So, my first issue is: how does one estimate the weight of a bike when the
> motor is out. E.g. how much heavier is say, a Ninja 500 rolling chassis over
> a Ninja 250 one? Does it matter enough to be a consideration?
>
> If I want to take my first criterion seriously (and am not worried about
> freeway speeds) would I not want to get an even smaller CC bike, 125cc say a
> dual-sport bike? More generally, are there any gotchas with using an on-off
> road chassis (presuming I can switch out the knobby tires)? Of course, these
> bikes are less aerodynamic than the sport bikes, so that's a downside.
>
> I've also considered a Yamaha YSR 50 or Derbi GPR 50 chassis, but comfort
> may be an issue on those bikes.
>
> Thanks for any feedback!
> Sri Subramanian
>



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