Have fun! On 5/7/08, Charles Whalen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am forwarding to the list this email I sent to David Turock and Shawn > Lawless, just as an FYI, for more info on my Florida Keys EV tour & charging > station search mission. > > Charles Whalen > Charging Director > Florida EAA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "David Turock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: 240V charging in Key West? > > David and Shawn, > > I'm consolidating my responses to both of you on this, although I don't > think you know each other. But I just wanted to thank both of you for your > suggestions on 240V charging possibilities in Key West. > > I guess I should probably first introduce you guys to each other, as you are > both EVers and EVangelists extraordinaire! > > David -- Shawn Lawless is the President of NEDRA (www.nedra.com), the > National Electric Drag Racing Association, and is one of the top electric > drag racers in the world, holding many world records. Shawn is based in > Ohio (Youngstown or thereabouts in eastern Ohio, I believe) and spends a > good deal of time down here in South Florida collaborating and working with > our top electric drag racers down here and supporting our events. As I have > just learned, Shawn also spends some time in Key West and knows it well > enough to have given me some great recommendations on 240V charging > possibilities there, as did you. > > Shawn -- David Turock, a former Bell Labs engineer, international tech > serial entrepreneur, helicopter and jet pilot, aviation CEO, largest private > fleet owner of Toyota RAV4-EVs in the world (I've lost track, but I think > it's 3 and counting), is a one-man EV tour de force in the New Jersey-New > York City area, where he is based, and well beyond, including on Capitol > Hill in Washington DC, Sacramento, and here in South Florida, where David > has a winter vacation home in Ft. Lauderdale that he has generously made our > FLEAA Ft. Lauderdale charging station. David keeps one of his 3 Toyota > RAV4-EVs here in Ft. Lauderdale, where it is driven by his next-door > neighbor, veteran US Air Force fighter pilot, American Airlines Captain, and > FLEAA member, Paul Renneisen, who uses it to commute back and forth from his > home in Ft. Lauderdale to Miami International Airport, where he flies out > of. Paul also drives and features David's RAV4-EV very prominently in his > campaign for US Congress (www.renneisen2008.com), for Florida's 22nd > Congressional district, encompassing most of Broward and Palm Beach > Counties, as the first electric car driver ever to run for the US Congress. > > Anyway, enough of formal introductions. Hope I didn't short-change anyone. > :-) > > David -- Thanks for the recommendation on the Galleon. I tried but couldn't > get a reservation there, as they were fully booked. Thanks also for the > offer on contacting your friend who has a house there. I would have taken > you up on that if I hadn't gotten so many other good possibilties, which I > will get to in a minute, here below. > > Shawn -- Here's my itinerary of confirmed hotel reservations, in case you're > going to be down here a few days ahead of those dates you previously > mentioned to me for your own trip to Key West and would like to hook up and > get together, maybe our paths will cross. I deliberately chose all 3 of > these hotels -- in Key Largo, Marathon, and Key West -- because all 3 of > them have marinas with 30-50A 240V shore power outlets where I might be able > to charge my car, as well as for other reasons, either for proximity to > other marinas or existing charging stations we've already got, and/or > reasonable, relatively cheap price (all except for the one in Key Largo, > which is on the expensive side). > > Thursday May 8 > ------------------------- > Tarpon Flats Inn & Marina > 29 Shoreland Dr. > Key Largo, FL 33037 > tel: 305-453-1313 > $205/night > Very nice, friendly people, excited about my EV. They already told me over > the phone that I could charge my car using their 240V marina shore power > outlets. > Short 1/2 mile walk to our existing Key Largo charging station. > > Fri-Sat May 9-10 > ------------------- > Blackfin Resort & Marina > 4650 Overseas Hwy > Marathon, FL 33050 > tel: 305-743-2393 > $99/night > I stayed at this hotel last year but couldn't charge my RAV4-EV because I > didn't have the right marine type twist-lock plug adaptor. I do, however, > this year, and I can park right next to the marina, so I should be able to > charge from their 50A 240V outlets. > > We also have an existing charging station nearby at the Florida Keys > Aqueduct Authority workshop in Marathon, where I charged last year. > > I and other FLEAA members will be exhibiting our EVs at the Keys GLEE Expo > (www.keysglee.com/html/08_expo/2008expo.htm) at Marathon High School on > Fri-Sat May 9-10. I just got word late this afternoon from TJ Patterson of > the Keys Electric Coop in Marathon that the high school's electrician has > just today installed two 50A 208V 14-50 outlets on the outside of the school > for our charging use. I have offered to pay for the $200 cost of supplies, > which the GLEE organization and board of directors have gratefully accepted. > > Sun-Mon May 11-12 > ----------------------- > Banana Bay Resort & Marina > 2319 N. Roosevelt Blvd. > Key West, FL 33040 > tel: 305-296-2534, 305-296-6925 > $139/night > In addition to being fairly reasonably priced (for Key West) and having its > own marina, where I will try to charge my car, I also chose this hotel > because it is just a short 4/10 mile walk to the City of Key West Garrison > Bight Marina, which Shawn recommended as a good place to try to charge (and > also for their 7am early-bird happy-hour beer specials, in case I'm up that > early :-). Thanks, Shawn, for the link to that marina > (www.keywestcity.com/department/division.asp?fDD=13-78). > > In case I am not successful in charging at either of those two marinas, I > have got a firm offer to charge at two different Florida Keys Aqueduct > facilities on Stock Island -- 1) at their fleet maintenance garage, and 2) > at the welding workshop of their Reverse Osmosis Plant -- both of which have > 50A 208V 6-50 outlets, just like their workshop facility in Marathon. Hours > of operation (and hence charging) are the same as their Marathon facility: > M-F 8am-5pm. I spoke by phone this afternoon with the FKAA Key West > Operations Manager, John Melohn, who was most helpful and hospitable in > offering their 208V outlets at their facilities there and making sure that I > get what I need. > > So I am all fixed up in Key West. > > I am going to be taking a leisurely time making my way back up the Keys > chain, stopping and getting off the Overseas Highway to drive around and > look for other potential charging locations for us in the Summerland Key to > Big Pine Key area and also on Islamorada. Here is the rest of my itinerary, > in the reverse direction: > > Tues May 13 > --------------- > Blackfin Resort & Marina > 4650 Overseas Hwy > Marathon, FL 33050 > tel: 305-743-2393 > $99/night > > Wed May 14 > --------------- > Tarpon Flats Inn & Marina > 29 Shoreland Dr. > Key Largo, FL 33037 > tel: 305-453-1313 > $205/night > > Thursday, May 15, on my way back home to Delray Beach, I'll be stopping in > Florida City at the end of the Florida Turnpike to scout out any possible > charging opportunities for us there. > > I won't have a laptop or access to email on this trip but can be reached on > my cell phone at: 561-251-2387. > > Thanks to both of you for your suggestions on charging in Key West. Below > is my correspondence with a large group of professionals down there in the > Keys -- with the Florida Keys Aqueduct Authority, the Keys Electric Coop, > and the Keys Energy Services -- who have been very helpful in finding and > offering us charging in the Keys and supporting the FLEAA, ... in case > you're interested in reading it. > > Best regards, > > Charles Whalen > Florida EAA > Delray Beach, FL > cell: 561-251-2387 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David L. Turock > To: Charles Whalen > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:17 PM > Subject: Key West > > Charles, > > There are numerous marinas too. The Galleon is right next to a road where > you should be able to get access. > I also have a friend who has a house there. Would you like me to ask him? > > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Colleen Tagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Melohn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Brent Cranney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roy Coley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Florida EAA" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: 240V charging in Key West? > > John, Colleen, Julio, TJ, and Karen, > > Thank you all so much for all the help and communications back and forth > through your large circle of colleagues there in the Keys to find me an > opportunity for 208-240V charging in Key West! And thanks especially to > John Melohn at FKAA in Key West for the offer! I will give you a call this > afternoon, John. > > The planning and logistics for this trip in my Toyota RAV4-EV electric car > have taken longer than I thought and pushed back my timetable a bit. Rather > than trying to make it all the way down to Key West on Thursday (tomorrow!, > while here I am today still in Delray Beach as I write this, so no way > possible at this stage anyway) and then have to rush back to Marathon for > the GLEE Expo, I have decided to drive down to Key West after the GLEE Expo > on Sunday, and spend Monday and maybe Tuesday down there in Key West, and > just be more relaxed and leisurely about the whole thing. ... You know, > sort of kick back, island style, and be on island time. :-) At least make > it a "working vacation". I am basically now expanding this trip into an > entire length of the Keys sort of promotional awareness tour for electric > cars. Not that Key West is unfamiliar with electric cars, there being tons > of them there, but of course I'm referring to highway-capable electric cars > here like my Toyota RAV4-EV. And not that there's anything wrong or > inferior with NEVs like all those found in Key West either. They are > terrific for their intended application and serve a very useful and valuable > purpose in those locations. It's actually great that Key West is already > such an EV-knowledgeable and EV-friendly place, so I would expect a welcome > reception and interest there in my electric car. > > My mission for my entire length of the Keys trip in my RAV4-EV, as the > Charging Director for the Florida EAA, is to try to find 30-50A 208-240V > outlets which could serve as charging opportunities for our members to be > able to drive the entire length of the Keys in their electric cars, many of > which have only a 40 mile range at highway speeds (due to being powered by > lead-acid batteries). We are extremely grateful to the FKAA for their > generous hospitality they have extended to us to charge at their workshop in > Marathon last year and again this year, and now apparently in Key West as > well, which I will follow up on today, and also to TJ Patterson of Keys > Electric Coop for all of his assistance and coordination in facilitating > that opportunity for us with the FKAA as well as setting up temporary > charging facilities for us at Marathon High School for the GLEE Expo. Many > thanks also to Karen Beal for finding us another charging location on Key > Largo at the firehouse at MM99. > > The last few days I have been online researching hotels throughout the Keys > where I will stay and also a number of marinas where I plan to ask about the > possibility of charging using their 30-50A 240V shore power outlets. At > least one of our members who had planned to drive his electric car to the > GLEE Expo this year (and actually has a house on Key Largo) ended up not > being able to make it because we could not find him anyplace to charge in > Islamorada, which he would have needed to make it from Key Largo to > Marathon, as his car has a 40 mile range at 45-55 mph. Basically what I > need to do is to find us charging locations in Islamorada and also somewhere > in the Big Pine Key to Summerland Key area, to add to those charging > locations we've already got in Key Largo, Marathon, and now hopefully also > Key West, in order to complete a charging network throughout the entire > length of the Keys that will allow even our members with lead-acid powered > electric cars to drive all the way to Key West and back. > > With gas prices now averaging $3.80 and expected to reach $4.20 this summer, > and with oil over $120, and on last night's news (ABC World News) forecast > to go as high as $200 a barrel this year (which would portend $6-7 > gasoline), I think this is a very opportune time for me to be making this > electric car promotional awareness tour and charging location search mission > through the entire Keys in conjunction with the GLEE Expo. I am fortunate > to have a wonderful, well engineered, production electric car with a > 130-mile range, powered by advanced chemistry Nickel Metal Hydride > batteries. That gives me the luxury of being able to drive from Key Largo > to Marathon, and from Marathon to Key West, respectively, on single charges > and still have plenty of extra range to detour off the Overseas Highway > along the way and drive around in places like Islamorada, Big Pine Key, and > Summerland Key to look for marinas and such. > > I would just like to thank and congratulate all of you associated with the > Keys GLEE Expo -- including Karen Beal, the Alt. Trans. coordinator, TJ > Patterson of Keys Electric Coop, Colleen Tagle and John Melohn of FKAA, and > Julio Barroso of Keys Energy Services -- for all of your excellent work and > collaboration with everything you're doing to promote green and sustainable > living throughout the Keys!!! You have definitely put the Florida Keys on > the map as the most progressive part of the state and have set an example of > environmental leadership and stewardship that is a model for the entire > state and are the envy of the entire state of Florida in that regard!!! > > And as part of that effort, thanks again for everything you're doing to help > us in the Florida EAA promote awareness of highway-capable electric cars in > the Keys! I look forward to seeing you in the next few days. > > Best regards, > > Charles Whalen > Charging Director > Florida Electric Auto Association (www.floridaeaa.org) > Delray Beach, FL > tel: 561-638-6881 > cell: 561-251-2387 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colleen Tagle > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; John Melohn > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Brent Cranney ; Roy Coley > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: HELP! > > Great news, guys! Our Ops manager John Melohn is happy to help. Please have > our visitor call him directly at 13057472625 to discuss the details. > > Thanks and see you at the Expo! > > Colleen > 747.0466. > > > ------Original Message------ > From: TJ Patterson > To: Julio Barroso > Cc: Charles Whalen > Cc: Karen Beal > Cc: Colleen Tagle > ReplyTo: TJ Patterson > Sent: May 6, 2008 8:55 AM > Subject: HELP! > > Colleen, > > HELP! Can you see if there is an outlet at FKAA in KW for us? > > Thanks, > > TJ > > > Barroso, Julio wrote: > > Not sure of anyone off hand...let me know look in to it and let you > know. > > Did you check with Colleen Tagle at FKAA to see if they have > something in Key West? > > Julio J. Barroso > Communications / Marketing Coordinator > Keys Energy Services > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (305) 295-1023 & FAX: (305) 295-1005 > 1001 James Street, Key West, FL 33040 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this email > > > -----Original Message----- > From: TJ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:34 AM > To: Charles Whalen > Cc: Karen Beal; Barroso, Julio > Subject: Re: 1) my EV status update; 2) tentative itinerary; 3) 240V > charging in Key West? > > Charles, > > Give Julio Barroso a call at Keys Energy at 305-295-1000 and see if > he can find somebody for you. They may have something at their > office, I'm not sure. He knows a lot of people, though and could > probably find something. FKAA probably as a welding shop down > there as well and you could probably use it. > > TJ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Karen Beal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:25 PM > Subject: 1) my EV status update; 2) tentative itinerary; 3) 240V charging in > Key West? > > Karen (and TJ), > > Just wanted to give you an update on my vehicle status for what I'll be > bringing down to GLEE and also my tentative itinerary. > > I tried but have been unable to repair my Vectrix electric motorcycle and > get it in an operative, functional state. So I am driving down there once > again this year in one of my Toyota RAV4-EVs (same as I did last year). > > I will definitely be there for the media session on Friday afternoon. > > Right now, depending on what I can accomplish and get done here in the next > day and a half, my plans are to drive down there either on Wednesday or > Thursday. (Last year I drove down on Thursday.) I haven't made my hotel > reservations yet and will wait 'til tomorrow to do so, when I will make my > decision about whether I'm coming down on Wednesday or Thursday. Either > way, I am planning to stay at BackFin Resort where I stayed last year, > mostly because they've got a marina there, where I am going to try to charge > my car. Last year I didn't have a plug adaptor for their 240-Volt marine > type outlets, but this year I do, so I am going to try to charge there. If > I'm unsuccessful in charging there, then I'll go over to the Keys Aqueduct > Authority workshop and charge there, where we charged last year. (That > would be on either Wednesday or Thursday, depending on which day I drive > down there.) > > If I come down on Wednesday, as I'm hoping to do, I'd like to take the day > on Thursday to drive down to Key West and back to try to get us a 240 Volt > charging location down there. (I would actually need a 240V charge down > there in Key West in order to make it back up to Marathon.) Do either you > or TJ or anyone else you guys know involved in the Keys GLEE organization > know of any accessible outdoor 30-50A 208-240V outlets down there in Key > West which the property owners or business proprietors might be willing to > make available to us and host a charging location for us there? > > Thanks & best regards, > > Charles Whalen > Charging Director > Florida Electric Auto Association (www.floridaeaa.org) > Delray Beach, FL > tel: 561-638-6881 > cell: 561-251-2387 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _______________________________________________ > Florida EAA mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.floridaeaa.org >
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