Allan,

Ok, good.  Sorry for the dis.  I also got a note from Ted that clarifies this 
for me.  I don't agree with the prize, although it may be of minmal value.  I 
do agree with Ted about the $5,000 tax credit you and I both missed.  It is the 
best news as Ted pooints out.  See below.

Cheers,
Al Lococo
www.evprogress.org 

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Ellyatt 
  To: Al Lococo ; FLEAA Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [FLEAA] McCain calls for new EV battery technology


  He also suggested $5000.00 rebates on zer emission vehicles.  Thats the best 
nes.  TED
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  Ted,

  Your right, that is the best news.  I was distracted by the the post from 
"info" which missed the important point.  I am a little jaded and tirred of 
slogging through nonsense.

  My fault, I should have read closer.  Still, $5,000 may not be enough.  The 
last one, I believe, was $7,000 and times are changing.  I must admit though I 
had originally suggested $5,000 in my petition.  I have now revised it to a 
ramped $10,000.

  Tanks again for keeping me straight.

  Cheers,
  Al Lococo



  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    To: Al Lococo ; FLEAA Mailing List 
    Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:44 PM
    Subject: Re: [FLEAA] McCain calls for new EV battery technology


    Hi Al,
        Sorry for the cryptic email address.  It is me "Allan Miller".  I 
thought everyone knew it was me.    When Shawn collected email address from the 
one of the meeting, it was the one that I used.   And it stuck.    I can get 
Shawn to change it, if you think it is confusing.

    Allan

    Al Lococo wrote: 
      Folks,

      You know me, I'm skeptical.  A post from someone name Info.  Is this 
information or propaganda?

      The $300 million prize for a better car battery is not necessary. What we 
need are plug-in cars, PHEVs and BEVs.  When do we need 'em, now!  How do we 
get 'em, with the proper incentives, properly administered.

      For example, we have a $1,000 Hybrid incentive.  What does GM do they 
build a "Mild Hybrid" to qualify for the incentive.  That's how they compete.  
If the incentive were properly administered, the "Mild Hybrid" wouldn't 
qualify, and they wouldn't build it.

      The government introduces a small businesses incentive for vehicles 
weighing over 6,000 pounds, GM introduces the Hummer.  This incentive peaked at 
$125,000 in 2007.

      http://www.crestcapital.com/tax/tax_deduction_calculator.aspx

      Do incentives work, you bet they do.

      The first task of the current administration, was to dismantle incentives 
that favored BEVs and Hybrids.  The BEV incentive was dropped and the Hybrid 
research program was converted to a Hydrogen Fuel Cell Program.

      A 10,000 or $20,000 or more  incentive per vehicle would go a long way 
towards getting PHEVs and BEVs on the road.  Too bad the government can't do 
for electric vehicles what it did for the Hummer  The incentive should be 
ramped so that as the population of PHEVs and BEVs increases, the incentives 
are reduced.  This will motivate buyers to get in early.

      Too bad our candidates don't understand the capabilities of the 
technologies we already have and the power of incentives to apply  these 
technologies to the problem at hand.

      Plug in, we have the technology and Toyota RAV4 is the proof.  Not to 
mention the AC Propulsion, E-Box and the Tesla roadster.  

      How about the AFS Trinity?  This Super capacitor PHEV is on the road.

      http://www.afstrinity.net/Jan08-AFSTrinity-XH150-Presentation.pdf

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujp1f4vXJ5U&feature=related

      Technology we have.  Politicians who understand the technology and the 
power of incentives we don't have.

      Cheers,
      Al Lococo
      www.evprogress.org  
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        To: Fleaa 
        Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:04 AM
        Subject: [FLEAA] McCain calls for new EV battery technology


        Wow, this is great news for the EV community!.   This is the first 
time(in recent memory) the federal Government has step forward and actual 
proposed to help the adoption of Electric Vehicles.  For those of you who have 
not heard the news, McCain has step forth and says that he wants the federal 
government to pay "300 Million" to help develop a new EV battery.  What does 
mean to us?    It means that the new battery will be developed with ....wait 
for it....."public money".      Translated, it means that there will not be a 
corporation(like Chevron) that can prevent the technology from being mass 
produced.      Right now it is only a proposal...but we should help encourage 
this kinda solution.   



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