Now there's a good idea!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremiah Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "FLEAA Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FLEAA] reselling electric


>I really like that idea of a parking meter with a built in charging
> station.  You wouldn't neccesarily be charging for the power, you could 
> just
> be charging for the parking like normal, and have free power.
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Michele Mician <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I think ours at the new police station may be free public use charging
>>
>> MICHELE MICIAN, MS
>> ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> yourgreencity.sarasotagov.com
>> 941-365-2200 x. 6317
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Ludes
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 3:22 PM
>> To: FLEAA Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] reselling electric
>>
>> Michele and All,
>>
>> I will introduce myself first since I am new. I am an Electrical Engineer
>> at
>> Honeywell in Clearwater, FL. Looking to build my first EV soon for
>> commuting
>> purposes. So be on the lookout for questions from me and or any resources
>> you all may have you can send my way.
>>
>> As far as your statement / Question Michelle about the storage and
>> reselling
>> of electricity. You are correct in the thinking that once the electricty
>> passes through your meter you are charged for it and what you do with it 
>> is
>> your business. If you wish to store it and sell it have at it if you can
>> find someone to purchase it from you but keep in mind they can get it 
>> from
>> the same electric company you stored it from.
>>
>> As far as using Wind and or Photovoltaic sources on your home and selling
>> it
>> to the power company. There are some forms available on their websites 
>> you
>> can fill out. Get it signed by a licensed electrician and submit, some
>> charge a processing fee. The Electric Company will then proceed to your
>> home
>> and install a metering device to measure any electricity that is sent 
>> back
>> to the Power Grid. Any power that is sent to the grid well be credited to
>> you either in your upcoming power bill or in a check. The Value of the
>> electricity is calculated from the Current market values.
>>
>> I hope this information helps.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/3/08, Michael Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >               Hi Michele and All,
>> > >
>> > >                    I believe only utilities can sell
>> > > electricity in Fla so you might want to check that out
>> > > before buying meters. Of course I don't think the electric
>> > > company will mess with those whom give them their Ok to do
>> > > business. Or since they are the only ones, shame, reqire
>> > > them into putting charging outlets in various places.
>> > >                    Generally for quite a while the cost of
>> > > charging EV's until there are more of them, is not going to
>> > > be worth the cost, hassle to collect it. If an EV charge
>> > > point spent more than $10/month on it's electric, probably
>> > > much less, I'd be surprised.
>> > >                   In my last, next EV I get 100mile range
>> > > on $1.10 of electricity. Cities generally pay less by about
>> > > 1/2 of that for electric, not worth charging for in the next
>> > > say 5 yrs. By then the law should be changed and enough EV's
>> > > to make charging pay for it's equipment, labor, bookkeeping.
>> > >                                Jerry Dycus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > those laws were written by utility companies to keep people from doing
>> > business.  I think there could be a way around it.  If the electricity
>> was
>> > stored in batteries or collected by the sun you could argue that you 
>> > have
>> > already purchased the electricty so therefore can do with it as you 
>> > wish.
>> > Software and music companies had in there EULA that you could not 
>> > resell
>> > the
>> > software or music.  This was argued through the courts and the courts
>> > determined that if you purchase something then you have the right to do
>> > with
>> > it as you wish.
>> >
>> > Yes the arguement can be made that you could not resell the electricty
>> that
>> > is constantly coming into your house/business but then again, you are
>> > buying
>> > the electrons so once they pass the electric meter you should be ABLE 
>> > to
>> do
>> > what you want with them.  Heck, the electric company says that they 
>> > will
>> > only repair the electric lines up to your meter, and after that is the
>> > property owners responsibility.  So the electric that passes the meter
>> > should also no longer be under control by the electric company and the
>> > person should be able to do with it as they chose, even to sell the
>> > electrons that were legally purchased from the electric company.
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>>
>>
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