Way cool! I will make a copy of your email about the creation of your EV and your solar on your roof, and I will give it out when we take The Electric Vehicle Initiative on the road throughout FL next month. People need to know that we can Just Do It! Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FLEAA] My mathematical explanation of the extreme oilpricevolatility we...


Four years ago I read a similar article in National Geographic.  The
potential consequences of this scared the crap out of me. I am not generally a doom
and gloom guy.  I just know how John Q. Public generally  keeps his head
burried in the sand and other orafices until a problem is no longer on the clearly visible horizon but breaking down the front door. The longer we wait to agressively deal with this problem, the more painful it will be once it gets to
our doorstep.
Four years ago, I had some mechanical skills, but I did not know how to
weld, I knew nothing about electricity. I worked full time and I still do. Now
I have 2.7 KW of PV panels as well as solar hot  water on my roof, an
electric car in my garage, a grease burning diesel as well as a few other toys. I
bring this point up not to brag but to show  the potential.  To paraphrase
Abraham Lincoln, the fact that a few men have achieved greatness demonstrates to us the we all can achieve greatness. Not that I consider myself "great" but IF I CAN, SO CAN YOU! I have heard to many times "I could never do that, I'm
just a  (substitute your occupation here)"  BULL$%&+!!!!!  I am a  doctor.
That does not make me incapable of learning new things, nor anyone else. All I did was take the time that most of us spend staring at a TV screen and put it to better use in the garage or reading about the current project. We can all fix this problem!!! It is said (often by myself in the garage late at night) that the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Those first steps require a surprising amount of courage, a direction and a fair
idea of the destination.
The only important difference between me and many club members and a lot of the public is that I had a head start. I am now where anyone can be in a few
years.  A few years is not a long time.
There is a lot that needs to be done. Clubs like ours can give this journey some direction. My motivation is my kids. Whenever the next major energy "crisis" comes, I want my kids to be able to remember that at least I tried to do something about it. A pleasant and unexpected side effect from all of this is that my kids think I'm some kind of genius, even my 15 year old. We need to start taking those first few courageous steps, find our motivation whatever it may be. The journey of a thousand miles (or for me four years) will
never be finished if we don't  step off the front porch and start walking.



In a message dated 12/3/2008 9:24:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Wow. You DO amaze me, Mr. Charles. These ideas and computations need to be shared with other minds. Would you be ok to send this to the FLEAA mailing
list?  Plug In America? EVs for sale? etc.?
I do *get* the concept re: EVs being  the possible key to breaking this
viscious cycle:
(from your words) The only way we can get out of the vicious cycle of this
paradigm  (explained
reasonably well by mathematical queueing models), which has  stalled and
flatlined long-term economic growth, is to develop a widely  available
competitive substitute for oil, which of course would  be
electrically-powered transportation, i.e. EVs.  That would remove  the
constraint and ceiling on economic growth and allow the global economy  to
once again expand.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Florida EAA"  <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:52  PM
Subject: [FLEAA] My mathematical explanation of the extreme oil
pricevolatility we are seeing in a post Peak Oil world


----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Whalen
To: Fran  Sullivan-Fahs
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:05 PM
 Subject: Re: what do you think, charles? from fran

Very  complex subject.  Peak Oil is not about running out of oil; it's
 about
having reached maximum supply and production.  There's a  big difference.
Basically what Peak Oil does is that it puts a cap on GDP, where the only
way GDP can grow any further is through efficiency  gains.  The practical
effect of this is that we will see repeated  cycles of rolling recessions
(or
worse, depressions) and recoveries, but without a longer term trendline of growth. The longer term trendline will be flat. This is exactly what we are seeing. Global oil extraction and production peaked in 2005 and has
fallen slightly since then.  We are now on a very slightly  decreasing
plateau and will likely not see larger declines in oil  output for a few
years, possibly until 2012-15, when the declines will get steeper. There
can be, and will be, lots of oil price  volatility within this paradigm,
with
price basically  determined by demand.  What we now have is a
demand-destruction  dynamic, where price will moderate demand and
vice-versa,
but  where total supply is limited and capped by the global peak that is
 now
clearly visible behind us in the rear-view mirror back in 2005. Peak Oil
is
only visible in hindsight, and we've now got that hindsight to clearly see
it.

There are  mathematical models which explain the extreme price volatility
 we
are seeing and will continue to see in the oil market. In the absence of any widely developed and available, competing substitute for oil and with the supply of oil constrained and limited to the peak we have already seen
behind us and unable to expand any further, I see  mathematical queueing
models as a good proxy and theoretical construct for explaining this price
volatility.  In a queueing model, you  have a demand rate and a supply
rate,
just as in the case of  the oil market.  Mathematical queueing models do
not
 directly incorporate price into them, but this can be done by proxy, as
the
length of the queue -- or equivalently, the waiting time  in the queue
(which
is proportional to the length of the  queue) -- can be thought of as a
proxy
for price, since price will likely be directly proportional to the length
of
the  queue (or equivalently, waiting time in the queue).  This may be
 somewhat counter-intuitive to those without mathematical training, at
 least
on first thought, but the length of the queue (and waiting time  in it),
and
hence, by proxy, the price of oil, takes off exponentially and skyrockets
as
the demand rate approaches  the limited, constrained, fixed supply rate.
In
fact, the  length of the queue, and hence price of oil, actually goes to
infinity  (in the mathematical model) as slack capacity completely
 disappears
and the demand rate reaches 100% of supply, bumping up  against the fixed
supply constraint.  This can be seen  mathematically, for the simplest
M/M/1
queue, with the  formula:

L(t) = 1/[mu(t)-lambda(t)]

 where

L(t) = length of the queue (as a proxy for price) at  time t

lambda(t) = demand rate at time t

mu(t)  = supply rate at time t

This mathematical model is a good  proxy in explaining the
demand-destruction
dynamic in a  supply-constrained environment, as we now have with the oil
market  having reached maximum global ouput, and the resulting repeated
cycles  of rolling recessions and recoveries that we are seeing and will
 continue to see, with a flat longer-term GDP trendline, where demand
 continues to bump up against this fixed ceiling at the height of each
 recovery, causing the price of oil to skyrocket, which then results in
 demand destruction, leading to another recession and then subsequent
 recovery, and so on and so on.

As demand backs off of the  fixed, constrained supply going into each
recession, the mathematical model explains and demonstrates how the price
of
oil will drop precipitously with the more slack capacity that is freed up
 through demand destruction.  Basically what will happen is that  with
sufficient slack capacity (of supply over demand) in the global  oil
market,
the price of oil will start to drop back down  towards its cost of
extraction
and production, which is  exactly what we are now seeing.

The only way we can get out of  the vicious cycle of this paradigm
(explained
reasonably well  by mathematical queueing models), which has stalled and
flatlined  long-term economic growth, is to develop a widely available
 competitive substitute for oil, which of course would be
 electrically-powered transportation, i.e. EVs.  That would remove  the
constraint and ceiling on economic growth and allow the global economy to
once again expand.

 Charles


----- Original Message ----- From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs
To: Charles Whalen
Sent: Tuesday, December  02, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: what do you think, charles? from  fran

Peak oil hoax: Keeping the idea of EVs alive in the era  of cheap gas

Posted by: "doug korthof"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   live_oil_free
Sun Nov 30, 2008  7:45 am (PST)

What makes you think Peak Oil is a hoax? You  think there's an
infinite amount of oil? You don't believe the decline  in discovery &
production rates and increase in demand  rates?

I wrote an article about this; while oil is not  unlimited, per se,
there's much more of it than the peak oilers think  or will admit.

Do you know that the original peak oiler was a  Shell exec? Hubble
was writing about peak oil to promote Shell nukular  power, and to
jack up the price and increase control of oil  supplies.

It's not entirely a bad idea, because the peak oil  myth gets people
to accept high oil prices; but it's pernicious if  people think we're
going to run out of oil.

 ----------------------------------------

The Myths of Peak Oil  and the "Energy Crisis"

"the problem is NOT that we are  running out of oil; the problem is
that we are NOT going to run out of  oil before we smother in the
debris of the oil  economy...".

The American Petroleum Institute confidently  expects to deliver oil
at the present rate of growth until the very  last decades of the
21st Century. Newer technologies such as shale-oil  extraction, and
revived older technologies, such as converting coal  and natural gas
to oil are in ADDITION to this  assurance.

The amount of oil in the Earth is finite, of  course. Books such
as "The Party's Over" claim much more, that the  upcoming end of
cheap energy from oil will necessarily cause global  political
disruption, and that there's neither enough time nor enough  other
resources to find a substitute.

This version of  "Peak Oil" is the one that sells books, is a real
position held by  widely read authors, and can be shown to be false.
Explication of the  two meanings for "peak oil" remove the salability
of scare books. In  one sense it's trivially true, and in the other
sense, it's just  false.

1. Peak Oil in one unarguable sense means that it's the  end of
easily-recoverable oil. When oil stops bubbling out of Arabia,  it
must be pumped or pressure-extracted and separated. The price  of
oil will rise correspondingly.

Oil prices of $50  per barrel may explode to $100 or even $500 or
more if oil must be  extracted from "shale oil" or converted from
coal deposits. These  numbers correspond to pump prices of $1.60,
$3.20, and $14.00 per  gallon. Price inflation will eventually
increase the price of gasoline  to these levels, as the dollar
degrades over the decades. Even a pump  price of $14/gallon is still
a DISCOUNT from one estimate of the real,  unsubsidized costs that
are not paid by the oil  industry.

So in this sense, "Peak Oil" is trivially true; gas  prices are going
to rise, maybe severely! No one doubted, back when  bread was 30
cents a loaf, that some day it would be $3; it's just a  matter of
time and market pressures.

The price of oil  has little to do either with the cost of production
or scarcity. As  the Saudi Oil Minister stated, there is no
shortage; they are able to  supply ALL their customers. When the
reporter asked about lower  prices, the Minister laughed. Big Oil
charges what they feel the  market will bear; it's a managed market,
like  diamonds.

Big Oil has been consolidating, from reducing the  number of gas
stations and refineries to a smaller number of  multi-nationals,
effectively allowing Standard Oil to reform itself  and join with
OPEC to control the market. It's a monopoly in the sense  that folks
who relied on cheap gas and purchased a gas-guzzler are  helpless,
for now. They must purchase the fuel or do without driving.  In a
sense, we are hooked on the drug of mobility, and have no
 alternative. Mass transit was dismantled years ago, and we got
hooked  on the freedom of the auto.

In a controlled market, there's a  mathematical model for the price-
point where cash returns are  maximized. Naturally, drivers react to
higher prices by either driving  less or finding other means of
transportation. To the degree that they  do so, Big Oil lowers the
price, but only in accordance with the  model; there's no shortage,
as there is in a free market, all the  customers get the "drug".

Are oil-fired cars "sustainable?"  That is, could we run oil-fired
cars indefinitely? Amazingly, it's  possible. Given enough power,
we can sequester carbon dioxide from the  atmosphere, as plants do,
and accelerate its conversion into burnable  Carbon compounds such as
oil. The cost of this oil might be perhaps  $2000 per barrel, and we
would all be smothered by the debris of  burning the rest of the oil,
but it is theoretically possible. So in  this sense, unfortunately,
our oil addiction won't be solved by "peak  oil." We have to decide
to get off the "drug" ourselves, nobody else  is going to do it for
us.

In another sense, "Peak oil"  is the idea that, in the immediate
future, we will run out of physical  oil, and not have any. Why does
this matter? Well, it will mean our  cars will sit idle, and our
economy collapse. Shopping centers, urban  sprawl, and whole
populations will disappear; societies will fight and  die over the
last few gallons of gasoline, the last few puffs of CNG,  and the
last few pounds of coal.

In this sense, it's  just false, as shown by the supplies of physical
oil examined above;  moreover, as oil runs out, people adapt. When
trains disappeared, we  were "trained" to use cars and busses; those
who depended on trains  adapted.

The chief thing about this sense of "peak oil" that  bothers me: it
ignores the infinite adaptability of humans. We are  clever and
ingenious monkeys; we adapt, within limits. As things  change,
commodities become scare, prices rise, and people learn to  live with
the new situation. To run out of oil in this way assumes we  would
have to fall off the cliff suddenly, from subsidized cheap oil  to
scarcity with scarcely a break. The scary image is of  suddenly
empty pumps, going from lots of cheap oil to none at  all.

Things don't happen this way. It's ironic, to see videos  like "the
end of suburbia", when so many people are working so hard to  stop
big developments like Rancho Mission Viejo; sprawl is happening  now,
and it's an insult to think that it's going away because soon  there
won't be any gasoline. Peak oil won't stop sprawl, only  difficult
battling and opposition even has a ghost of a  chance.

Can there be an "Energy Crisis" without a  crisis?

What happens with Peak Oil is illustrated by the  claims of an Energy
Crisis. A mild, but sudden, jump in oil prices led  to the sudden
popularity of Electric cars. Every automaker seems on  the verge of
some day producing an Electric car. From Nissan to VW,  Honda, and
even General Motors, which scarcely three years ago  arrested would-
be buyers of their Electric car and crushed them  all.

Dick Cheney said that we need "a new power plant a week  for the next
twenty years," 1,000 new electric plants.

 A study of the California grid on www.CAISO.org shows that the only
 time we are anywhere near a shortage of electric power is summer
 daytime peak periods. The rest of the time, we are shutting down
big  generators as electric power goes begging. During off-peak
hours,  extra electric is used to pump water up to Lake Castaic and
other  reservoirs; the next day, the pumps turn into generators, and
the  power helps meet peak demand. Electric generated by this "peak
 shaving" technique is still cheaper than firing up dirty "peaker"
 units, despite the loss via pumping and generating.

Our  current generating capacity of about 52,000 megaWatts is far in
excess  of even our peak demand.

A simple calculation shows that we  could generate all of this peak
power by rooftop solar panels,  assuming every Californian lives
under an average of 1000 square feet  of roof; this is realistic,
since the area available includes parking  structures, apartment
houses, courtyards, etc. A thousand square feet  per person assumes
2.5 residents of an average 2,500 square foot home.  1000 square
feet is 100 square meters of roof, times 200 Watts per  square meter
yields an average system of 20,000 Watts or 20 kiloWatts  (kW) per
person. If only half of the roof is useable due to shading  or
skylights, that's an average system per person, just using  rooftops,
of 10 kW. Multiply by 30,000,000 Californians and you  get
300,000,000 kW of capacity, or 300,000 megaWatts, about 6 times  our
existing generating potential.

So there's no  "energy crisis" with respect to electric production.
We have more than  enough electric capacity, and, if we used our
solar peak power  generating capacity, we would be flooded with
excess electric power.  There are equipment outages and storm
damage, of course, but if we  installed battery backup solar systems,
we'd be immune to that,  too.

What, then, do they mean by an Energy Crisis? Let's look  at oil.
Could that be what talk about an Energy Crisis is all about?  First,
people don't want to get off oil.

If you claim  there's an oil shortage, I'd have to ask where's the
shortage. What  this boils down to is that we don't like the high
price of  oil.

If we really wanted to get off of oil, and still retain  our
mobility, and assuming oil prices remained high and  manufacturers
resumed production of all-electric EVs and started  making plug-in
hybrids, we can reduce oil far below current US demand  of 20 million
barrels per day.

Even better, some of  our driving could be done with excess electric
production, especially  off-peak charging of plug-in cars.

The average car travels  1000 miles per month. A kilo-Watt-hour
(kWh) is a measure of electric  energy or work. There's about 35 kWh
per gallon of gasoline. An  Electric car such as the Toyota RAV4-EV,
a small SUV, gets about 4  miles per kWh of energy. So to travel
that 1000 miles only takes 250  kWh of electric energy per month.

The average home uses  between 500 kWh and 1000 kWh per month. So
1000 miles of driving could  be done on a small fraction of the
energy use of the  home.

An average gas car gets 20 miles per gallon, so avoiding  buying gas
for 1000 miles saves 50 gallons of gas. At $2/gallon, that  saves
$100, not counting oil changes, tune ups, and so on. That's  more
than enough to purchase a rooftop solar system large enough  to
produce 300 kWh of energy per month. So in effect, if you could  buy
a plug-in car, you could use the money you don't spend on  gasoline
to help electrify America. And after it's paid for, you get  to
drive for free.

Even better: your daytime peak  electric production could charge your
car -- or you could "bank" the  valuable peak power with the grid
when it needs it most, using the  extra credit for that valuable
power to "pay for" off-peak charging of  your plug-in car. Both the
daytime peak production and the nightly  charging help level electric
usage and actually lower the cost of  electric power.

Each plug-in car that doesn't use gasoline  tends to lower the price
of gas for the remaining oil-fired cars.  Those people who want to
buy a plug-in car, and power it with their  own solar system, should
be allowed to do so; the only thing stopping  them is a lack of plug-
in cars.

The RAV4-EV ceased  production after Chevron bought control of its
Nickel Metal Hydride  (NiMH) batteries from GM and sued Toyota,
extracting $30 million in  "damages" and allowing Toyota only to make
small NiMH batteries, too  small to power an Electric car or a plug-
in. That's why all car  companies are forced to experiment with
Lithium batteries, which show  promise, but may not last as long as
NiMH. Should an oil company  dictate our Energy Policy? Why did GM
and Chevron collude to suppress  plug-in cars, and why should they be
allowed to get away with  it?

There's in the end no "peak oil" problem, and no "energy  crisis".
There's a lack of leadership, a lack of will, a sickening  failure to
address our Energy Policy, but that's a lack of mental  energy in our
failure to force politicians to rein in Big Oil. Our  corrupt
politicians are paralyzed by Big Oil's donations. Big Oil  must
smirk when the pols scramble for pennies while they make off  with
billions, distracting the gullible with talk of an "energy  crisis."

All the talk of "solving the energy crisis" and of  Electric cars
would vanish instantly if gasoline fell to $2/gallon.  We'd go back
to sleep, and remain vulnerable to Big Oil any time they  want to
yank our chain. So the real angst behind the Energy Crisis is  the
desire for lower pump prices.

In practice, most of  the remaining Electric cars are Toyota RAV4-EV,
and most are powered  by energy credits from daytime rooftop solar
electric peak power  production. The only thing stopping more people
from making this  sensible choice is the failure to resume production
of the Electric  car. If the auto companies were serious about it,
they would not defer  production of Electric cars for years; Electric
cars, and plug-in  hybrids, are not, as GM claims, "cutting edge"
ideas; they are twenty  years old, are well proven, and you can see
examples in your own  community of people living the "EV-PV"
lifestyle. It's not difficult  to "go green" if they let you, it's
EASY, and it's even  fun.


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