Hi Jerry, I'm on the road this week with a number of meetings and am otherwise, like everyone else, pretty full up trying to get ready for BBB, so no time unfortunately to discuss any of this now, this coming week, but would be glad to do so at BBB.
Hope you can make it! Thanks, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerryd" <[email protected]> To: "Charles Whalen" <[email protected]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Florida electric vehicle incentives legislation announced yesterday Hi Charles and All, I was kind of thinking we could get a proposal together that's more realistic and actually does something good since we have the pols there and can show them real life EV's. We could use my points below as a starting point and add, subtract from it and vet it for facts like are there any qualified kits? What exactly is the SAE standard? Make a proposal with part numbers for the charging outlets. The feds just did a 50% tax credit for charging points too. Anyone have ideas we could put in, change, ect? If we could get it done by Wed I could email it out to the pols, transportation aids, Gov Crist in advance. Luckily the leadership seem to be on our side!! WE have a good chance here to move the ball in Fla for EV's and we should prepare and take it. It's amazing Fla has been so backward but in the last 3 yrs both RE and EV's are getting help, moving into the future!! I certainly would like to see EV builders like me, others get start up funding, either loans or grants as banks won't for my Freedom EV and others wanting to put people to work. We should also present conversion shops as a job maker and EV's as a new industry. I only drive my EV 3wh MC (as a tree took out my car, trailer, EV trike, camper, cash) which has a 40 mile range so I can't make it unless I can share gas, hotel expenses from someone coming from or through the Tampa area. If anyone can I could use a ride as this looks like an EVent we all need to be at. I'm just 1 mile off I-75 SE of Tampa. Thanks, Jerry Dycus >Hi Jerry, > >Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, which I'll pass >along. Look forward to seeing you later this week at BBB, >when we can discuss further. > >Til then, best, > >Charles > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jerryd" <[email protected]> > > > Hi Charles and All, > > Reading the text under this under Bill >Text > >http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=40983&SessionId=61 > > The rebate may be impossible to get. > Are there any Fed qualifying Kits for specific models you >must have to get it? Which are they? > Even if so only 100 rebates are available/yr. > The only one to actually get money maybe is the Fla Solar >Energy Center which gets $200k /yr for administration of >$200k/yr of 100 rebates. > > > The charging stations only allows Avcon and Magna-charger >outlets I believe the SAE standard is so can anyone use >them? Maybe yours and other RAV4 EV's of which they are 2-4 >in the state but who else? I know the Magna-charger is no >longer made and the Avcon? Much better is to use standard >RV outlets everyone uses. Spelling may be off. > >Maybe suggest these changes. > > Cut everything but 60 mph highway capable, 2-3-4wheel >eligible > 4-6kwhr/1hr rate battery pack or more. Voltage, amphr, are >not needed, only kwhr is. > inspected by DMV to FSEC standards, tilted in Fla. > For safety must have 3 safety cut offs of fuses, breakers, >contactors. > Propulsion power must be isolated from body/chassis. > KIS > >For $50k FSEC could write a reasonable, doable EV >conversion standard DMV inspectors can follow and publish >it. The rest of the $350K/yr for 175 rebates/yr. Or better >if they want an industry change that to $4M for 2000/yr >rebates creating more jobs, EV's which I'd think would be >the point. > > Maybe restrict it to Fla built conversions, new EV's. > > Take the money from the gasoline road, the utility tax >funds or the stimulus to cover it. > > For charging standard RV 240 and 120 vac outlets with GFI >with a weather cover to keep plugging in dry. > > EV legislation isn't any good if it can't be used by >enough to make a difference. > > The sales tax break on EV's, EV parts and free tolls >will help. > > Charging outlets on rest areas, turnpike service areas >and every 20 miles along interstates at gas stations or >restaurants, ect if those are not available would help a >lot. > > Thoughts anyone? > > Jerry Dycus > > >----- Original Message Follows ----- >From: "Charles Whalen" <[email protected]> >To: "FLEAA Mailing List" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [FLEAA] New Fed EV tax credits, Florida >electric vehicle incentives legislation announced yesterday >Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:33:31 -0500 > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 2/14/2009 6:01 PM _______________________________________________ Florida EAA mailing list [email protected] http://www.floridaeaa.org
