Hi all, Yes its right that with using
[Serializable] you can use your classes on client side i.e. in Silver Light App. You can use it in DTO Tier. If you have any concerns please let me know. Have a nice Light J Regards, Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems (Pvt) Ltd. +92 321 569 4195 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions I believe DataContractSerializer is compatible with SerializationAttribute... so in theory you should be able to serialise the same classes without modification (even if they are in an older 1.1 or 2.0 assembly that you don't have to source for J) - im going from memory here though From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon Sent: Monday, 22 September 2008 9:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Just quickly, 1) You are mainly suggesting a server based identity, which I did contemplate and implement, but the problem with that is you end up losing some of the silverlight power of local application with the constant need to go back and forth in a complex web application across multiple pages. I did implement a expiring token in local storage, but that has a number of architectural syncronisation problems with the server based asp.net security model which works so well. 2) Good to hear. 3) Interesting. I just didn't think it would be that simple. 4) Silverlight works reasonably well with the XML Formatter, expecially when you put it in with Linq to SQL, with most things being tied into nice classes, but not having the binary formatter you lose a degree of flexibility in being able to serialise anything. Thanks, Ross. PS, we should catch up anyway when you are back if you have a spare hour or two. ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 5:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Hi Ross! (long time no speak) J 1) You have a number of options, essentially the easiest way is to tap into the Windows Communication Foundation services and utilize this option. It's essentially sending data over the wire in XML format, Silverlight has great hooks already built in to handle these type of requests. We're also looking to do more here to make things more seamless in upcoming versions. I can't say more than that, but it will get a lot easier in the long term. 2) That's the intent going forward. We see a great deal of positive power with using LINQ inside Silverlight and WPF. It's almost safe to say out loud to think of LINQ as you're Data Passport between client and server. There will be more expansion on this in the future as well. 3) Security will remain similar or if not the same as ASP.NET today. The difference is on the client, you essentially need to architect in such a way that the initial "first ask" is defining whom the person is and what their session may look like. From there, it's a case of "CanIHaveAccessTo(args)" style security access (given you're in a non-Refresh situation - assuming this is a 100% Silverlight App by the way). Now, the danger here is if not architected correctly is that you can fake the "true/false" responses, so the further piece to this is to maybe consider using XAML over the wire. In that "can I have access to ViewAllUsrProfiles?, If the answer is true, you essentially trigger a .xap download or you load .XAML remotely, via an ASP.NET page (pushing the content). As this will also be a secondary check to make sure they did indeed have positive response to the question" 4) Could you expand on the Binary Formatter? I.e. what do you have in mind? 5) We're working on smarter ways to go between Client and Server, but can't say much just yet on what that will look like. We're still actively planning features and so feel free to expand on what you're thinking here as I'm more than happy to walk this into the next planning meeting and discuss with the team. P.S I'll be back home in Brisbane (currently Belinda and I are living in Seattle now) around XMAS time. So if you're still stuck around then, I'm sure we can find a E&Y event to meet up at and discuss in depth over a beer or two. Failing that, feel free to contact me offline to discuss in depth should the above not be enough (same goes for anyone on this list btw). -- Scott Barnes (Rich Platforms Product Manager) Microsoft Corp. <http://www.microsoft.com/> | Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog <http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog> | Mobile: + 1 (425) 802-9503 (New!) Twitter: twitter.com/mossyblog <http://twitter.com/mossyblog> | MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Hi all, I am the CIO of Michael Hill Jeweller which is an international (US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia) jewellery retail chain whose global head office is based in Brisbane and we are in the process of replacing our global website. The executive here are very excited by the opportunities presented by silverlight and we will be developing the new site using this technology and are trying to release it as soon as possible. I did have a couple of questions which I have posed to Microsoft, but they have been unable to answer and most of them are directed towards my personally perceived weaknesses of silverlight and I was hoping that someone would be able to point out how they can be achieved. Hopefully our work arounds are not the suggested best practice. 1) What is the best way of persisting user identity through multiple silverlight pages? 2) It appears to me that linq to SQL entities seem to lose the ability to maintain state (ie know what is changed) after passing through a wcf call and silverlight treats it like a normal class. Is that the case and if so, is that going to be changed? 3) What is the best practice for integrating security and sessions between asp.net / silverlight / wcf? 4) Are there plans for a binary formatter in the silverlight framework? 5) I have been overlaying silverlight pages over aspx with master and content pages. The largest issue with that is being able to pass information between your master and content pages (easily achievable in aspx), but are there any plans to implement a method to easily pass information between SL pages on the client (usually user specific information), other than at creation of the page. Thanks for any help in advance, Ross. 18/9/2008 Ross McKinnon [email protected] This email and any attachments ("Email") are intended only for the addressee and may contain privileged, confidential and/or disclosure-exempt information. You must not edit this Email without our express consent. Michael Hill Jeweller (Australia) Pty Ltd does not warrant that this Email is complete, error-free or virus free, and by opening any attachments, you accept full responsibility for the consequences. If you are not the addressee, you must not disseminate, rely upon or copy this Email, and you must immediately erase permanently and destroy all records of it and notify us by phone (at our cost). 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