Hi Justin, I can only comment on your 1st point, I wouldn't describe TFS as tightly coupling source code to work-items. It has that ability if you want it to thru the use of checkin policies. We have team projects at the moment with no source code and being used for work items only. I quote you "wants to ensure that we have a view of the source code that is based on the software assets", to me your software asset becomes the Team project. Its just how you want to organise yourselves. Cheers Ian ________________________________
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butcher, Justin Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2007 10:41 To: [email protected] Cc: Brad Smith (AUSTRALIA) Subject: [OzTFS] Thoughts on Clear Case / TFS integration [SEC=UNOFFICIAL] HI All, I work for a large (by Australian Standards) government organisation (the ATO) that does a lot of software development across a range of platforms. We are increasing the scope of TFS usage to about 500 users in the very near future (currently about 200). We are currently evaluating the Clear Case and Clear Quest Product Suite with a view to understanding how it might either complement or replace TFS. We are currently using TFS to manage a number of projects including a fairly large project in which TFS manages several 100,000 lines of both Cobol and .Net code. The integration with the Cobol editor is quite reasonable, using the MS SCCI provider. We also have pockets of Eclipse (Java, MQ Series) and other platforms which are (or very soon will be) using TFS. I've noticed the following which seem to be limitations of either product and I was wondering if people could comment of the following points: 1. TFS tightly couples source code to work-items, reports and team collaboration. As a large enterprise with lots of teams and lots of projects over time, my team (enterprise architecture) wants to ensure that we have a view of the source code that is based on the software assets. We don't want the primary view of the code to be based on projects, which are centred around tasks, timelines and people. We want a view that shows how the source fits into the over-arching enterprise architecture framework. Because TFS uses the Team Project as the top-level organisational unit, source gets organisated around projects, rather than being organised as the resulting assets that projects deliver. It seems like Clear Case / Clear Quest supports this concept better, with a better layer of abstraction between source organisation and projects / workflow. But I've not used Clear Case. Am I right? 2. Does Clear Case support the idea of source proxies like TFS? 3. I know that TFS supports migration from Clear Case specifically and integration with Clear Case. Has anyone got real experience with this that they can share? Thanks, Justin. **************************************************************** IMPORTANT The information transmitted is for the use of the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, disclosure dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may result in severe penalties. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Privacy Hotline of the Australian Taxation Office, telephone 13 28 69 and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. **************************************************************** OzTFS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net OzTFS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net Notice: The information contained in this email message and any attached files may be confidential information, and may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this email is unauthorised. If you received this email in error, please notify the DEWR Service Desk and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. OzTFS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
