Howdy,

On 10/08/2005, at 6:22 PM, Saad Kadhi wrote:

Hi there,

I have recently installed NetNewsWire and I was very much surprised to see it connecting to the Web without a single alert from Little Snitch.

I run NetNewsWire Lite 2.0 in 10.3.9 and I had to make the usual rule to allow TCP over port 80 before it could get any net access.

After some delving, I found out that NetNewsWire uses Safari to access the Web.

This isn't unusual. For example iRecordMusic (RAW as was) "uses" a Safari-based browser to run it's functions. However Littlesnitch still had to give it inital permission to access the network independently of Safari.
 The browser tabs that appear inside NetNewsWire are Safari ones.

yes, but you've already called the links up (by subscribing or whatever) - it's not as if NetNewsWire is initiating hidden or even independent net activity is it?

Given this, any new application that might want to phone home would simply need to use an authorized one such as Safari (using an API of some sort etc.) and go completely unnoticed here. Thus effectively bypass any security Little Snitch might provide. Am I wrong here? Is there any option I need to activate on Little Snitch to stop this from happening?

If this scenario is realistic (as demonstrated with NetNewsWire+Safari), let's assume we have two applications: application A, a newly installed application not authorized by Little Snitch to access the network and application B, which has permit rules to access it.

One way to thwart this attack path is to control whether application A is authorized to launch application B (or some part of it). As a multi-platform user, the personal firewall I use on Windows XP (Tiny Personal Firewall) does this out-of-the-box, thus effectively stopping application A from calling application B and inheriting its permissions.

What does Little Snitch offer in this regard? What can be done to stop this attack path from happening?

That all reads a little too complicated for OS X - I'd be very interested if you could show this kind of thing happening; that is to say, an uninvited nasty getting such easy access to general network permissions.

darky M

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