I have found the developers to be extremely responsive and concerned.
And I wonder how I would react if I developed a piece of software, then found other folks trying to expand the functionality and then bitching because it doesn't work as expected.
We are not "bitching" because we want expended possibilities, we are discussing about security.

For all of you wonks out there that just *have* to have terminal access, get a life. Or write your own. It's just very trying to watch all this squabbling and worse, the general attitude towards the developers.
As for the general attitude of the developers, I can only speak from what I've read concerning these two issues on the mailinglist, but it was far from being responsive.

Lay off. Write your own. Or use the GUI. Would it kill you?
That's exactly what we (I) did, and it works beautifully and that's actually the problem, it works too well. I would not want terminal access if I could use the GUI. I think you missed the point. Some of us access our home machine via ssh (terminal only) and thus cannot control the firewall remotely, which is a problem.

Let the flames begin. Because the same folks bitching are the same folks gonna flame me. Hand in hand.
We are not trying to flame (bitch with no proof or anything to back what you bring up) we've brought a multitude of proofs to what we advance.

But if you are interested in demonstrating your point, I would be more than glad to listen to you. What makes you think that the developers are responsive? Any past experience to bring up front? Why should people who use/need CLI access be left out? Why do you consider out discussion "flaming" or "bitching" as you say?

Overall I believe you are only bringing your own feeling on this thing, which is not exactly very helpful to anyone as we are looking for facts and for that I'll call you a demagogue.

xSmurf

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