Hi Bob, > Is this intended as a learning tool, a production > implementation of a stack or ???
It is intended to a wide range of implementations areas. This is my opinion and a conclusion that I take from GISVM users feedback during the 1 year of GISVM lifetime. I've tried to point out this during my FOSS4G 2009 presentation: http://2009.foss4g.org/presentations/#presentation_176 The learning/teaching goal is the most obvious one. (workshops, tutorials...) FOSS4G Demonstration is also obvious. Every software presenter/commercial/salesman I know uses VM's for their demonstrations. Software Distribution is another inevitable goal (FOSS4G LiveDVD) Cloud computing, can also be a success if well explored (Click2Try) I use it everyday at my Job (Local Authority) as a GIS Workstation and Server solution. You can also use it as a developers stack for beta-testing their apps... etc So, I think it doesn't have to do with the intention, but what is behind all of that. That's how I have chosen the GISVM name. GIS and Virtualization! For instance, Live-demo is also a good name, but it lacks Geospatial reference and it strictly indicates demo implementation. We can eventually go for "FOSS4G VM", to link it to the FOSS4G conference... or "OSGeo VM", if OpenGeo guys don't mind...;-) > Also, I've become interested my self with building USB based systems > that work similarly, and seem to span OSs a little easier. That's what I initially proposed to Cameron when he asked me for participating on the LiveDVD build. As far as I understood, the problem was about funding associated to FOSS4G 2009. It only allowed DVD burning, not USB sticks! On the technical point of view, it's identical, producing a LiveDVD or a LiveUSB. Thank you for your opinion. Cheers, Ricardo Pinho http://gisvm.com ----- Mensagem original ---- De: Bob Basques <[email protected]> Para: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Enviadas: Sábado, 31 de Outubro de 2009 16:41:27 Assunto: Re: [Live-demo] Using OSGeo hosting platform for developingArramagong/LiveDVD/GISVM All, I've watched this progress leading up to the Sydney event from the sidelines. I have a question about the final intent of the product though. Is this intended as a learning tool, a production implementation of a stack or ??? I think this question needs to have some clarification put to it, especially with regard to naming. Also, there might be more than one final version of things depending on use, so some sort of naming convention might be useful as well. Also, I've become interested my self with building USB based systems that work similarly, and seem to span OSs a little easier. At least based on the traffic I saw in the list leading up to Sydney. On USB for many OS's. I'm also pondering if there might be a method that allow for mixing the two, VM and USB(native OS based) I have many business interests related to this, most recently emergency management, but port data stores are also of interest as well as syncing of datastores, as in collecting offline and syncing when network available. Just thought I would chime in here on these point. I have a few other too. bobb >>> Ricardo Pinho <[email protected]> 10/31/09 3:31 AM >>> Hi, This question has crossed my mind quite a bit and I think we should come up with an answer together: “How to continue using OSGeo hosting platform for developing Arramagong/LiveDVD/GISVM project?” There are many distinct tools and references on the internet for this project: a) Several Wiki pages: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GISVM_Build http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Packages b) Svn trunk: https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/ c) Trac platform https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/livedvd/gisvm d) Download site: http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/index.html e) Live-Demo mailing list http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/ f) Arramagong site http://www.arramagong.com g) GISVM site http://gisvm.com So, how can we organize it on a simple structure for simplicity and integration of all these? I understand that this is the result from joining several projects and products. But there are now too many names involved on this initiative. This doesn’t help the clarification for user and developer understanding.. Even I get confused about this and explaining it is even harder! My opinion is that we should start to agree on defining “one unique name” for the process of building the install script repository and the resulting Virtual Machine development build. Then there could be several names for resulting products like: Arramagong, LiveDVD, GISVM, etc. But this is only a start-up suggestion, and I would appreciate others thoughts about this… Thank you, Ricardo Pinho ____________________________________________________________________________________ Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Live-demo mailing list [email protected] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo ____________________________________________________________________________________ Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Live-demo mailing list [email protected] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
