Yes, I agree. See you soon. Thanks. Christian On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Christian, > Why don't you get through your mountain of work, then get back in touch when > you are ready to start trying out the build process for poseidon, and I'll > support you to get it working. > > On 22/10/2010 12:03 AM, Christian Ferreira wrote: >> >> Cameron, >> >> >> Yes, we can CC to OSGEO-Live. I will subscribe the mailing list. But at the >> exact moment my time is pretty small for long discussions (if they happen). >> I'm back from 7 weeks on field work, and I must deal with a "mountain" of >> tasks and multibeam data, and most of them must be finished/processed before >> the end of THIS month. Oh my God! :-( >> Thanks for all the infos... I will start reading the howtos and looking >> inside the script. >> Cheers, >> Christian >> >> Christian Ferreira >> Oceanographer, MSc. >> Seafloor Imaging Group >> MARUM - Center for Marine Environmental Sciences >> Bremen - Germany >> >> Poseidon Linux team >> http://www.poseidonlinux.org >> >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: >> >>> Christian, >>> >>> Do you mind if we CC the OSGeo-Live list with this conversation? >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo >>> >>> I'm delighted to hear that you are still driving Poseidon project along. >>> And very excited by the possibility of sharing our core development work, >>> and then creating customised release distributions which use the same core. >>> >>> What this would mean practically: >>> 1. You would identify the packages that you would like installed in >>> Poseidon, then create your own install master install script (which calls >>> the individual package scripts). >>> See: https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/main.sh >>> >>> 2. Write Documentation - our project overviews and quickstarts are >>> currently being translated into German, Italian, Spanish, Greek and >>> Japanese. >>> >>> 3. For any applications which we don't have an install script for, you (or >>> someone else) would need to write an installer. >>> Example here: >>> https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_udig.sh >>> More detailed instructions here: >>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project >>> >>> 4. We would then run the main.sh script on a clean Ubuntu distribution, and >>> create an ISO. >>> Detailed instructions here: >>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Creating_the_GIS_Virtual_Machine >>> >>> It may seem a lot to digest up front, but I'm very confident that once you >>> get the hang of the process, you will find it significantly easier than >>> doing it all by yourself, and you will be able to tap into a very extensive >>> community of developers who are working on this with us: >>> Roughly: >>> * 3 core packagers >>> * another 5 or so non-core packages and testers who help out sometimes >>> * around 25 to 30 people who specifically work on packaging, testing and >>> debugging their specific project install scripts and documentation. >>> * around 10 translators >>> >>> Why don't you have a quick look at the links above, then decide whether you >>> would like to base poseidon upon these packaging processes. >>> >>> If so, then we can work together to try creating an alpha poseidon release >>> and test the release process for you. (I think after you have done it once, >>> with our help, you will be convinced that it will be easier than doing it >>> the old way). Working together I expect we should be able to get something >>> going in under a week's effort. >>> >>> On 20/10/10 18:37, Christian - Poseidon Linux wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Cameron, >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for keeping some faith on Poseidon. >>>> >>>> Yes, Poseidon is going further... I had 5 intensive months with >>>> cruises/travels but now I'm back to Germany. And this unfortunately >>>> delayed the next version. :-( >>>> >>>> Also, Hamish suggested me to include the sample data from MB System on >>>> Poseidon (instead of OSGeo-Live), and I agreed. Actually, I think that >>>> since Poseidon has now two variant: full version and the MB System one >>>> (plus QGIS, >>>> GRASS and GMT), maybe I could the last one into some kind "classroom" >>>> version, with lots of sample data and documentation, and maybe this help >>>> OSGeo as well. >>>> >>>> Yes please, provide me the scripts. Maybe we can share the load of >>>> software, since both distribution have a different and similar at the same >>>> time. >>>> >>>> Actually, I'm not against getting closer to OSGeo, is just that I'm the >>>> only developer on Poseidon, and like an old man (I'm only 35) I tend to >>>> stay with what I already know. :-) >>>> >>>> Also, I'm pooling with some people to have Poseidon available on every big >>>> research vessel because of MB System/bathymetry. And I planning some >>>> tutorials for MB System (which I already have done), but also some >>>> integrating it with GMT, GRASS and QGIS (to be done). >>>> >>>> Let's restart the conversation. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Christian >>>> >>>> Christian Ferreira >>>> Oceanographer, MSc. >>>> MARUM - Center for Marine Environmental Sciences >>>> Bremen, Germany >>>> Coordinator of Poseidon Linux >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: >>>> >>>>> PS, >>>>> You can see what is currently on the OSGeo-Live distribution here: >>>>> http://live.osgeo.org >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Cameron Shorter >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hello Christian, >>>>> I keep seeing your name and the poseidon linux distribution popping up in >>>>> various places, and this has prompted me to touch base again to see if we >>>>> can help you build your next poseidon linux distribution. >>>>> >>>>> (Are you considering putting out further poseidon linux distributions?) >>>>> >>>>> Here at the OSGeo-Live project we are running into a problem with space >>>>> on the DVD. Soon we won't be able to fit all applications onto the DVD. >>>>> >>>>> So what will be important is to be able to create specific targeted >>>>> distributions for specific domains, and I think that Poseidon Linix would >>>>> be a very good version. >>>>> >>>>> What we can do is provide the core distribution though our build scripts, >>>>> which you can use as a basis. You can then value add by selecting the >>>>> applications you wish to install, then applying any customisations you >>>>> may think is required. >>>>> >>>>> Is this of interest? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Christian Ferreira >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Poseidon is going to be updated to Ubuntu 9.10. The work is on the way. >>>>> >>>>> Actually, I have two versions nearly 100% ready based on Ubuntu 9.04. But >>>>> took me so much time, that now this Ubuntu has just less than 1 year of >>>>> security updates, so I decided for giving up. So, these Poseidon will >>>>> never be released. >>>>> >>>>> The problem, is that Poseidon since from the beginning, Poseidon is a >>>>> distro of a man alone. The team help with the website and sometimes >>>>> writing documentation... but, the distro related work is done just by me. >>>>> >>>>> So, sometimes with the cruises, work and family is hard to find tons of >>>>> time to produce real polished and good Poseidon release. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway... I new version is under construction... Actually, I am preparing >>>>> first a minimal version of Poseidon Linux just with the GIS and MB >>>>> System. This will be ready until end of December (I will work during Xmas >>>>> hollidays on it). >>>>> >>>>> Well, I'm always glad to have help or ideas... >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, Poseidon Linux doesn't has the infrastructure necessary to >>>>> be a internet shared project. And I never could find the resources to do >>>>> so. >>>>> >>>>> PS: Please, Hamish and others... in the future (if possible), write me >>>>> just to this email... the "chris for lists" email gets dozens of emails >>>>> (and I use filter that sort them), so any personal mail is not filtered >>>>> and may get lost among them. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Christian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Hamish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hamish: >>>>> > >> you might mave a look at the Poseidon live dvd project. >>>>> >>>>> Massimo: >>>>> > > I know it, it's a great project! >>>>> > > from poseido i see some sw title i don't know first. >>>>> > > But seems the last release is dated 2008. >>>>> > > Maybe for educational purpose is not needed >>>>> > > to have the last sw version installed? >>>>> > > btw, just to know if it was a topic of interests. >>>>> >>>>> Cameron Shorter wrote: >>>>> > http://www.en.poseidonlinux.org/ >>>>> > This project looks very similar to what we are doing and >>>>> > there is great potential for us to collaborate. Does anyone >>>>> > know the developers there yet and want to invite them to >>>>> > work together with us? >>>>> >>>>> any thoughts Christian? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Hamish >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christian Ferreira >>>>> Oceanographer >>>>> Marum - Center for Marine Environmental Sciences >>>>> Bremen - Germany >>>>> >>>>> Poseidon Linux team >>>>> http://www.poseidonlinux.org >>>>> >>>>> Poseidon Linux team >>>>> http://www.poseidonlinux.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cameron Shorter >>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect >>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 >>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 >>>>> >>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally >>>>> Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions >>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cameron Shorter >>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect >>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 >>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 >>>>> >>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally >>>>> Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions >>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cameron Shorter >>> Geospatial Solutions Manager >>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 >>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 >>> >>> Think Globally, Fix Locally >>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source >>> http://www.lisasoft.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Cameron Shorter > Geospatial Solutions Manager > Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 > Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 > > Think Globally, Fix Locally > Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source > http://www.lisasoft.com Christian Ferreira Oceanographer, MSc. 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