On 28/10/10 19:03, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Alex Mandel<[email protected]> wrote:
As I mentioned in a previous thread I think we should stick to Ubuntu
10.04 for this next release to save ourselves some time/work on the base
system that could be more focused towards improvements of other
features. (Note: I've also seen on some lists that usb based systems
under Meerkat have some issues around booting)
Johan, I like your proposal of sticking with 10.04 for the next release,
then going to 11.04 for the FOSS4G 2011 release.
We have previously spent a lot of time trying to get a new Ubuntu
version working with Virtual Machines and our build process. Sticking
with the same version will allow us to focus on other issues - like
quality, testing, and translations.
As a proposal for improvement:
I think we should try to move towards using packages instead of
install scripts for most programs (and we can even do it for the
documentation).
advantages:
- packages can be reasonably well tested on any ubuntu 10.4 system
without having to build the live dvd
- an installed live dvd can update packages (and the user can remove
things he doesn't like) - eg security updates
- packages can be used by normal ubuntu users which want to install
some gis applications
- building can occur on a different pc: build time for the dvd itself
goes down and less chance that unneeded build-dependencies are
installed
disadvantage:
- it might be more difficult
Although it is true that it may be difficult to create a well working
package that builds from source, if we adopt a less strict regime and
allow binary packages (or treat binary files as source files), many
programs which are now installed as a tarball/jar should be relatively
easy convertible to packages.
if we group are programs:
already installed as a package: atlasstyler, geopublisher, gmt, grass,
gvsig, mapguide, mapnik?, mapserver, maptiler,marble, opencpn,
osgearth, osm, (ossim), pgrouting, postgis, pywps,qgis, R, saga,
spatialite?, viking, zygrib
installed as a tarball or jar: 52nWPS, degree, geokettle, geomajas,
geonetwork,geoserver, gisdata, gpsdrive?, kosmo,
mapbender,openjump,openlayers, ossim, sahana, spatialite?,
udig,ushahidi, zoo
compiled during installation: main-docs, (mapfish, mapnik?)
Most programs also install documentation, icons, ... things which can
go in a package as well. I could try to give some proposals, but prior
to investing time in that I would like to hear what the others
(especially those who maintained the dvd up to now) think.
Johan
Johan,
I love your idea, if you can help make it work.
We originally wished to make use of .deb packages for OSGeo Live, but
found the effort required was too large and we did not have enough
people with the know-how to be able to get everything packaged.
In particular, the java based packages were particularly difficult to
get packaged a couple of years ago. (I suspect that has improved now).
What you may be able to help with is to outline the roadmap that people
need to follow in order to get their projects packaged as .deb files,
and then mentor the projects through the process.
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