I think the crux of this strand of the thread is that "it depends".   Rules
are made to try and make things safer, but no rule can cover all
situations.  As Arild points out, sometimes it is best to leave the device
shut down as in a conveyer belt, sometimes it is best to leave them to come
back on, as in the lights.

One of the things I love about engineering my boat is that I am free to
make it the best I can make it and not be held back by some insurance
oddsmaker writing blanket rules for the lowest common denominator. 

Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek
30 07.695N  081 38.484W


> [Original Message]
> From: Arild Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org>
> Date: 7/24/2008 8:49:22 PM
> Subject: [Liveaboard] Latching relays  ( was: 12 VDC buss )
>
>
> > Lew Hodgett wrote:
> >
> > >From a safety stand point, latching relays are a disaster waiting to 
> > happen.   >>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> > Why exclude latching relays? SAFETY.
> >
> > If you loose power, the only safe way is to reset every thing to the
off 
> > position and start over.
> >
> > A relay with a basic holding circuit accomplishes this by providing 
> > under voltage protection.
> REPLY
> Why indeed?    Lew you bring up an very  contemporary topic. Also a 
> hotly  debated issue.  <VBG>
>
> It used to be  devices were designed to FAIL SAFE.   Especially in motor 
> controls etc.
> Thomas Kobelt  of Kobelt Engineering  gave a presentation to the 
> Vancouver  chapter of Marine Engineers.
> He mentioned that IMO had begun a shift to a new and very different 
> concept. called FAIL in MODE.
> It was obvious from the audience reaction they had widely divergent  
> opinions on the subject.


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