I have seen several pilothouse/center cockpit boats that had 3 to 4 steps 
between the inside and the outside.  Same size boats with rear cockpits have 6 
to 9 steep steps or flat rung ladders. 

Picture a geriatric, arthritic dog with 4 inch long legs trying to get in or 
out. . . .

All boats, by their very nature, are made up of a series of compromises. . . 
.hydrodynamics, kinesiology, speed, comfort, buoyancy, displacement, creature 
comforts are some of the charactoristics the boat engineers have to work with. 
I do not like ladders.  I am a retired firefighter, I know and understand the 
use and function of ladders.  For a boat I live on, with my dogs, I prefer 
steps.

Thank you for your description of your boat.  I am encouraged by this to 
continue with my instictive attraction.

Casey  


--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Rosalie B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Rosalie B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Boat Search
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 6:54 AM
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:42:16 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
> 
> >
> >I am still looking for my first liveaboard.  I am now
> focusing on Pilot House/Motorsailers.  
> >
> >I don't like the ideal of having to be out in the
> elements to steer the boat and I don't care for ladders
> >
> >I am hoping someone on this site has some experience
> with these boats and can share some insights.
> >
> >Casey
> >
> I don't understand the not caring for ladders.  What
> does that have to
> do with pilot houses vs other boats?  The pilot houses that
> I've been
> aboard have ladders.
> 
> We have a center cockpit boat (CSY) with a complete
> enclosure around
> the cockpit, and we are not out in the elements to steer
> the boat.  We
> can be quite warm and comfortable in cold weather (if the
> sun is out
> the enclosure acts as a sun trap), and we are in the shade
> in hot
> sunny weather.   Some of the boats like ours have hard
> biminis and
> dodgers.  The aft cockpit boats that CSY made were the
> smaller boats
> and the pilot houses.  A center cockpit with an enclosure
> will be
> cheaper to buy because there are more of them.
> 
> As for visibility -  out in the weather or inside sometimes
> you just
> can't see regardless.   If it is foggy - makes no
> difference inside or
> out.  Driving rain - ditto.  In neither case will a pilot
> house boat
> be able to see any better than an unprotected aft cockpit
> boat because
> there's reduced visibility for everyone.   I wear
> glasses, and if I
> was out in the rain, I wouldn't be able to see anything
> because of
> water on my glasses (although I suppose I could wear my
> scuba mask).
> Anything that you have to protect in such case -
> pilothouse, dodger or
> whatever - the rain will obscure visibility through it. 
> I've been in
> rainstorms on land that were so bad that my windshield
> wipers on the
> car could not keep up with the rain.  In such cases, I
> wouldn't have a
> problem because we wouldn't be out there.  If we were
> out there we
> would be proceeding with extreme caution or anchored or
> hove to or
> whatever seemed best at the time.
> 
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