Rob, 
I rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. 
Means of self defence is not an arsenal, and yes ,
guns are part of every free culture. 
If it wasn't for guns we would not have enjoyed freedom,
anywhere. It is not a matter of culture, it is reality.

Yanni Marinated
S/V Princess Thalia
Columbia 8.7 #73
Hamilton-Fifty Point @ H3
N 43.13.406
W 73.37.431

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ROBERT ZANUSSI 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] recent info about Venezuela


  So, Yanni, do you have an arsenal on board your boat docked outside Hamilton?

  I am sorry my friend, but guns are not a part of Canadian culture. 

  Rob Z

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: lets go sailing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Date: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:49 am
  Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] recent info about Venezuela
  To: [email protected]

  > It is another example that guns for self defence on board are
  > part of our lives.
  > Everyone and I mean EVERYONE cruising on questionable or not areas
  > should take firearms safety course and how to handle firearms.
  > If you think that cruising safely around the world is handing 
  > out some cheap 
  > gifts
  > to natives and aborigines you should not leave the dock.
  > It is part of life like food and water. You better accept it for 
  > your own 
  > safety and
  > your families.
  > Everyone has a duty todefend their life and their loved ones.
  > It is like eating healthy food to stay healthy. It is your duty 
  > and 
  > obligation.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Yanni Marinated
  > S/V Princess Thalia
  > Columbia 8.7 #73
  > Hamilton-Fifty Point @ H3
  > N 43.13.406
  > W 73.37.431
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Densler, Vernon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: <[email protected]>
  > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 7:40 AM
  > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] recent info about Venezuela
  > 
  > 
  > >I think a 50 cal mounted to the bow is probably better than the dog.
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken James
  > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:33 AM
  > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
  > > Subject: [Liveaboard] recent info about Venezuela
  > >
  > > I received this from someone who is cruising the
  > > Carib right now. I fwd with permission.
  > > Anybody else been in that part of the world
  > > recently that can comment? -Ken
  > >
  > >
  > > Hi Ken,
  > > <snip>
  > > If you know someone planning to sail to the south
  > > eastern carribean, especially Venezuela, I would
  > > suggest they  check out Jimmy Cornell's Noonsite
  > > and the Carribean Safety and Security Net
  > > websites.  We have been lucky so far.  Several
  > > boats we know here have been robbed while their
  > > owners were beaten and held with guns to their
  > > heads.  Others have been shot.  Everyone has had
  > > something stolen.  The day our stuff was stolen a
  > > Dutch couple were in their dingy returning to
  > > their boat when one of the many pirogues that
  > > continuosly buzz through the anchorage at full
  > > speed ran them down killing him.  Three armed men
  > > tried to enter the marina next to the anchorage
  > > and in a shootout one of the bad guys was hit twice.
  > >
  > > A dog onboard might help but we just read in the
  > > Carribean Compass that a boat with a dog was
  > > recently robbed.  They shot the dog in the leg
  > > then stabbed it before beating and robbing the
  > > couple.  Her hand was serously injured when they
  > > tried to rip off her wedding ring.  Fortunately
  > > the dog survived and the ring was so tight they
  > > left it.
  > >
  > > There is no law enforcement here and no help can
  > > be expected from the authorities.  We will be
  > > leaving tomorrow and had planned to stop at Los
  > > Rochies but learned from the web sites above that
  > > the La Costa Guardia themselves have been robbing
  > > yachts there.  We will sail at night without
  > > lights to Bonaire.
  > >
  > > I really really hate to spread negative
  > > information but in my opinion if you know someone
  > > planning to sail here you must talk them out of it.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
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  The clock struck one and 
  the other 2 escaped with minor injuries


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