Norm,

I'd like to have a few plants on deck, but am uncomfortable about the 
constant moisture, and how to secure them in the wind & waves.

How do you handle this?

-Neal.

Norm of Bandersnatch wrote:
> Thanks for the info Rosalie.
> 
> 
> The cats always approach something they are not sure about with their nose
> so a very small zap would probably do it.
> 
> They are not interested in grass.  They want to dig up the dirt and poop in
> it.
> 
> I might try sticky pads but they could walk around them on the hatch rails
> upon which I could not put anything sticky.
> 
> Thanks for the ideas...
> 
> 
> Norm
> S/V Bandersnatch
> Lying Julington Creek
> 30 07.695N 081 38.484W
> 
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Rosalie B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Date: 8/26/2008 8:23:26 PM
>> Subject: [Liveaboard] Electric fence was Re:  recent info about Venezuela
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:42:28 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>> Actually MythBusters did a piece on that.
>>>
>>> Seems that there was a myth that one could pee on the third rail of an
> electric railway (600 VDC in NYC subways) and get away with it unharmed.
>>> So they did their thing and discovered with the high speed camera that
> after a certain distance from the source the stream of pee breaks up into
> individual drops so it does not conduct electricity.
>>> I have considered making an electric fence around our herb garden on
> board to keep the cats out by hooking up the fence wire to my 120 vac line
> through a several one megohm resistor.
>> Why not give them their own pot of grass, and put sticky paper around
>> your pots?
>>
>>> Anyone think that would be both effective and safe?
>>>
>>> Let's see: 120 volts divided by a meg is about  a tenth of a milliamp....
>> There are Scat Mats which you plug into the house current to give a
>> cat that jumps on the sofa (or whatever) a shock.  Don't know how
>> effective they are - I gave my mom one once.  
>>
>> We had an electric fence for the horses, and they would use their
>> muzzle whiskers to check if it was on.  If it was, they would gang up
>> on the horse that was the least likely to give them a fight and push
>> her through the fence so that they could all get out.
>>
>> For humans -
>>
>> 1-8 ma (.001-.008 amps)
>> Sensation, tingling
>>
>> 8-15 ma (.008-.015 amps)
>> Pain
>>
>> 15-20 ma (.015-.02 amps)
>> Loss of muscle control
>>
>> 20-50 ma (.02-.05 amps)
>> Difficult breathing, may cause damage to brain tissue and blood
>> vessels, may be fatal
>>
>> I would assume (although I do not know for sure) that these figures
>> are based on the normal body mass of an adult male.  I don't know how
>> much different it would be for females or for smaller mammals like
>> cats.
>>>
>>> While there were two good ideas on how to turn a latching relay on or
> off using one wire, nobody came up with a way to use one wire (plus ground
> and 12 VDC at each end) to transmit both high temp and low oil alarm
> signals.   I am surprised.  I know we have lots of clever engineers on the
> List.
>>>
>>>
>>> Norm
>>> S/V Bandersnatch
>>> Lying Julington Creek
>>> 30 07.695N 081 38.484W
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: JohnB 
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: 8/26/2008 12:53:57 PM 
>>> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] recent info about Venezuela
>>>
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>>> anyone tried an electric fence charger? 
>>>
>>> Puts a whole new light on peeing over the rail at night.
>>>
>>> John
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