Update... Norm, all of the "no anchoring for more than 72 hrs in a 30 day period" signs are down in Melbourne and the marine police are no longer harassing vessels that are anchored in our waters. I think they finally got the message that the local law was not in accordance with State Law. Marco Island ruling probably helped. So far, no new issues.
Sam On 5/10/12 10:31 AM, Norm wrote: > > Anything is possible from government employed drones seeking to garner some > brownie points. > > I can vividly remember reading in Latitude 38 years ago of one such piece of > ____ prosecuting a charter fishing boat operator in southern California (San > Diego, I think) for "dumping sawdust into the waters..." (a law created long > ago to keep commercial saw mills from dumping tons of sawdust into streams > and rivers before particle board was invented) as his crew was sanding the > cap rail in preparation to varnishing it. The owner was forced to purchase > a full-page ad in the local paper apologizing for his sins in addition to > paying a large fine. He then discharged all his American employees and > moved his operation a few miles south to Mexico. > > We already have a "real problem". > > I read an article recently in the May "All At Sea" (southeast edition) > magazine that the state of Georgia has modified their No Livaboard Law > recently to allow some folks to live on their boats under some circumstances > if they pay to dock in a "Certified Marina". Anchoring out is still > illegal. As usual, money talks. If you are paying someone it's legal, if > you are not, then it's illegal, just like in Melbourne FL and many other > places. > > When I first came to the Jacksonville area I was told that the St Johns > River flowed north because Georgia sucks; it wasn't until years later that I > found out just exactly why Georgia sucks. > > A marina owner was quoted in the magazine article as saying "It's not a > livaboard issue, it's a discharge issue." BS. There was already a law > against pumping raw sewerage from a boat. A composting toilet would > eliminate discharge of sewerage but that solution is completely overlooked. > Also overlooked is the fact that the primary source of water pollution > according to the EPA is "non-point" sources from civilization in general - > runoff from farms, lawns and roads as well as leaky, overtaxed, private and > municipal sewerage systems. > > It's all about the money, just as in Melbourne. Pay money to a marina owner > and you are welcome; don't pay money and you are a criminal. > > Since we found out the we were declared to be criminals in Georgia we simply > avoid the place entirely. We don't even stop for gas there when we travel > on I-95. > > In the past we wintered in St Augustine (and spent thousands ashore there, > including haulout) but since they now charge $300/month for mooring/dinghy > dock (anchoring is forbidden) we don't go there any more either. > > [There, that should stir up the List a little!....] > > > Norm > S/V Bandersnatch > Lying Julington Creek FL > 30 23.8N 081 25.7W > > > >> I don't think that removing debris is dredging as long as the depth isn't >> changing. He wouldn't be altering the bottom. I>can't believe you would >> need a permit to remove things like rusty bicycles that he said he has >> found in the past. If so we>have a real problem. I can understand if it >> was a reef but not when it's posing a danger to both boaters and marine >> life. > > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web > http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html -- **************************** Sam Densler Songwriters Island Radio www.songwriters-island.com S/V Lady of the Lake PDQ 36, Hull #15 Punta Gorda, FL http://www.islandfx.com/lady **************************** "If you ever wonder why you ride the carousel, you do it for the stories you can tell." Jimmy Buffett "Stories We Could Tell" A1A _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list [email protected] To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
