Hi Dan, On my first model iPod Touch it does start LK perfectly, and quite fast for such a slow device (faster than Squeak for example).
But The toggle between "zoom/pan mode" and "mouse mode" by touching briefly in an unoccupied part of the world does a toggle between the mouse or "the selection tool" ( a darker blue field with four balls OR a grey circkle) I've made a shorter url to get to http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-kernel/trunk/source/kernel/index.xhtml as typing in long url's is painfull and error prone. Thanks for another enjoyable day, Merik On May 9, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Dan Ingalls wrote: > Folks - > > I've just committed a bunch of changes that enable one to play with > Apple touch-based devices. Just point your iPad at... > > http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-kernel/trunk/source/kernel/index.xhtml > (the latest release), and it should automatically do the right thing > for your device. > > There are three changes: > > 1. A toggle between "zoom/pan mode" and "mouse mode", indicated in > code by whether UserAgent.touchIsMouse is false or true respectively. > Form the user's standpoint, this is pretty simple: If the cursor > looks like a normal cursor, then you are in "mouse mode"; if it > looks like a little blue pentagon, then you are in zoom/pan mode. > Lively will switch modes if you click (touch briefly) in an > unoccupied part of the world. > > 2. Pie menus are enabled so that you can copy and drag objects and > invoke their menus without needing modifier keys. Although it's a > bit sluggish, pie menus will do their best to help you out -- in > other words if you simply click down and up, they will give you the > normal object menu with an extra "pie menu help" item at the top. > The help menu will list all the pie menu choices in a regular menu > where you can read them and even activate them. The current settings > are: > > 12:00 undo (~) > 1:30 duplicate (o-->o) > 3:00 move (o-->) > 4:30 scale (o<O) > 6:00 show/hide handles > 7:30 delete (X) > 9:00 edit style (<>) > 10:30 rotate (G) > > The test in parentheses appears on the pie menu, so this is a short > form of documentation. Some helpful mnemonics: > Make more objects (dup) is directly across from delete > Scale and rotate are directly opposite each other too > Can you see the capital G as a rotate arrow? ;-) > > In the world the pie menu just gives you area selection plus an item > for invoking zoo/pan mode (O). > > 3. Rollovers don't work on a touch screen, so we have to activate > the shape editing handles manually. This is accomplished by a > downward stroke on an object. Do it again and the handles will go > away. > > With these three changes, everything begins to be usable except for > text input, and except that things are pretty slow and somewhat hard > to use. [You can test all of this on a fast laptop by putting > "UserAgent.isTouch = true" in your localconfig.js file]. > Nonetheless, I have actually managed to have a bit of fun with it on > both my iPhone and an iPad already. > > About the UI... > The current approach is one solution, and we can be glad to have > that. However, since putting in the persistent handles, I've been > thinking of another solution that is closer to what we did for > Squeak. I'm hoping to actually make this work so we can play with > both approaches. Here's how the other one would work: > > A quick click on any object "selects" it. This means that a bunch of > icons appear around it corresponding to the pie menu choices above. > This corresponds to Squeak's "halos". A second quick click will > cause selection to expand out to the morph's owner and so on out to > the world. A long (unmoving) click will bring up the object's menu, > and a drag will pick the object up and move it, as is normally the > case. > > > Please try this stuff out and make suggestions. And if you get text > input working before me, that would be nice, too. Please tell me if > you plan to do this, so I can do something else at the same time. > > Enjoy > - Dan > _______________________________________________ > lively-kernel mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel _______________________________________________ lively-kernel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel
