> On May 22, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Zachary Turner <ztur...@google.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 6:59 PM <jing...@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> > On May 18, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Vince Harron <vi...@nethacker.com> wrote:
> >
> > +llvmdev
> > -llvm-dev
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Vince Harron <vi...@nethacker.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would like to integrate crash reporting into Android developer tools, 
> > starting with lldb and clang.  Google Breakpad seems like a reasonable 
> > option.
> >
> > https://code.google.com/p/google-breakpad/
> >
> > Of course, it will only be enabled when the user has allowed it.
> >
> > The LLDB project is interested but it makes sense to us to push crash 
> > reporting down into llvm to make it available to all llvm projects.
> >
> > There are a couple of options here:
> >
> > 1) integrate this only downstream in our repo
> > 2) integrate in lldb ToT, defaulted to off by #defines
> > 3) integrate in lldb ToT without #define requirements
> >
> > I would prefer #3
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >
> 
> I would prefer #3.  You already have to assemble a bunch of pieces to start 
> doing lldb development, I'd rather not add another.
> 
> Also, I'd prefer to have this OFF for debug builds: getting reports of 
> development lldb's crashing is not helpful for anything other than telling 
> whether I (or you, or Greg...) are having a good day...
> 
> If the "allow crash reporting" is a system or user-wide setting, then the 
> best way to do this and NOT force all lldb developers to turn off 
> crash-reporting for the lldb installed on their system is to have some 
> defines that are not set in the debug build.
> 
> What about a debugger setting like debugger.enable-crash-reporting which 
> defaults to False in debug builds and true in release builds.  Or just always 
> defaults to False unless you build with a specific preprocessor define, but 
> you can still turn it on in the application by changing the setting.
> 
> Plus this gives users a convenient means to opt out of it, which is usually 
> desirable when it comes to things that collect data.

We should definitely have a setting.  But I also want define machinery because 
Apple has its own system wide crashreporting mechanism and that is the one we 
want to use for the lldb that Apple distributes.  And I don't want to have to 
support building breakpad in Apple's build system which I don't actually intend 
to use.  So if there's no define to make all this code unnecessary, I'm going 
to have to add it on my end anyway.

But I also think that it seems silly to add to the number of packages people 
have to download just to play around with lldb.  And for just playing around 
with the lldb sources, this crash reporting is wholly unnecessary functionality.

Jim



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