> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Adrian Prantl <apra...@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Zachary Turner <ztur...@google.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think new test authors really need to add CMake any more so than 
>> they currently need to understand Make.  Which is to say, not very much.  
>> Most Makefiles are currently 1-2 lines of code that simply does nothing 
>> other than include the common Makefile.
>> 
>> On the other hand, CMake defines a lot of constructs designed to support 
>> portable builds, so actually writing and maintaining that common CMake build 
>> file would be much easier.  The existing Makefile-based system already 
>> doesn't require you to understand the specific compiler invocations you 
>> want.  Here's 3 random Makefiles, which is hopefully representative given 
>> that I pulled them completely at random.
>> 
>> breakpoint-commands/Makefile:
>> LEVEL = ../../../make
>> CXX_SOURCES := nested.cpp
>> include $(LEVEL)/Makefile.rules
>> 
>> functionalities/inferior-assert:
>> LEVEL = ../../make
>> C_SOURCES := main.c
>> include $(LEVEL)/Makefile.rules
>> 
>> 
>> types:
>> LEVEL = ../make
>> # Example:
>> #
>> # CXX_SOURCES := int.cpp
>> include $(LEVEL)/Makefile.rules
>> 
>> None of this is particularly interesting.  There are a very few tests that 
>> need to do something weird.  I opened 10 other random Makefiles and still 
>> didn't find any.  I don't believe it would be hard to support those cases.
>> 
>> So now instead of "understand Make" it becomes "understand CMake".  Whic is 
>> already a requirement of building LLVM.
> 
> Fair point. I would suggest that I'll try to make LLDB's testsuite build 
> out-of-tree using the existing Makefile system. That should be a generally 
> useful first step. After doing this I will hopefully have a much better 
> understanding of the requirements of the Makefiles and then we can revisit 
> this idea with me actually knowing what I'm talking about :-)
> 
>> If our test suite was lit-based where you actually had to write compiler 
>> invocations into the test files, I would feel differently, but that isn't 
>> what we have today.  We have something that is almost a direct mapping to 
>> using CMake.
> 
> Question: how would you feel about converting the Makefiles to LIT-style 
> .test files with very explicit RUN-lines?

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Jim


> 
> -- adrian

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