You forgot the part about where our software works with Linux. :)  AFAIK,
most commercial DAWs don't.

We also open source EVERYTHING from our plugins to our artwork to our web
page to the scripts we use to create our proprietary-OS-installers.  Even
some our web graphics are open sourced (
https://github.com/Lukas-W/font-linux)

But our website is still very young and our software has a lot of room to
improve... This is what our page looked like just 1 year ago:

http://i.imgur.com/rVZF1eX.png

In terms of the commercial sites... What you are describing over at
FLStudio is the new-age trend of websites having more aesthetics content
than useful content.  I'm a bit biased, but I think we do a great job of
marrying the two.

If anyone has php experience and wants to do some tweaking to our website,
we make it pretty easy to clone and setup.
https://github.com/LMMS/lmms.io/blob/master/README.md

-Tres


- tres.finocchi...@gmail.com

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 3:00 PM, DeRobyJ <dero...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Spekular's topic reminded me that I wanted to share some thoughts about
> how other sequencers are introduces in their websites.
> This is not made to suggest to copy commercial products pages, since they
> are really different to us. But in the conclusion I'd like to share my
> opinions with you.
>
>
> Here's what I'll do: I'll read the "What's this program" homepages and see
> how LMMS compares to those statements.
>
> _____________
> Let's start with FLStudio, because LMMS started as a free alternative to
> it.
>
> Imageline prefers to show what's new in the last version of FLStudio, and
> it doesn't describe FLStudio itself.
> http://www.image-line.com/flstudio/
>
> They are mostly about their GUI:
> - Fully reworked scalable interface: now their GUI adapts to any screen
> size. We've had it for years °-°
> - Multi-touch. So they worked on touch screen users. I'm a touch screen
> user, and I think it's a good improvement. Still it's not really important.
> - New Category tabs and *the ability to delete content on right-click*: this
> got me. We do have folders in our browser, and we are able to delete them
> by going in the LMMS program files. But I never thought any user would have
> asked to make it simple.
> - Piano roll, you can now remove auto-zoom: We don't have auto zoom in
> piano roll, yet it seems some users don't like it. Yey
> - Drag'n'drop: multiple files can be taken from the Windows file browser
> to the program Playlist (which is the same as our Song Editor). I
> actually think this feature is a mess, but it might just be my opinion...
> - Stepsequencer: you can use either this or the piano-roll. We do not
> have a step sequencer
> - Fruity Envelope Controller: Updated, 8 Articulators, Mod X/Y env, Smart
> Knobs, New UI. Yes, this is the only new feature about audio.
> - Fruity Keyboard Controller: Attack smoothing, new UI.
>
>
> If we scroll down, we see a list of windows, but no description.
> What about the video? It describes new features too. LMMS video is
> actually so much better that theirs made me smile.
> So how does the new user know what FL Studio does? Well, not from the
> website.
>
>
>  _____________
> Now let's move to Ableton Live. I know it's a bit different from LMMS, but
> since it seems it's heavily used...
>
> What is Live? Ableton decided to write a page to present it to the
> newcomer.
> https://www.ableton.com/en/live/
>
>
> First of all, they state that Live has what *you need*, and that *if *you
> have used music software before you know half of Live.
> 5 Synths and 3 Samplers (and support of VST, as said in the video)
>     We have 15 Synths, 1 Sampler as well as support for VST, Pat and Sf2
>
> 390 Drum Kits (+ Downloadable paid kits)
>     We have one large kit of sounds, plus we link to H2 drumkits.
>
> 25 Packs (of presets)
>     We do have a lot of presets, but
>
> 4000 Loops (including MIDI ones)
>     We don't provide loops since LMMS is not ready for them atm. Plus,
> they are not really that important
>
>
> They provide a slide-list.
> Operator: "A versatile synthesizer combining frequency modulation and
> subtractive synthesis"
>     We provide frequency, phase and amplitude modulation, as well as a
> really good additive and/or subtractive synth inside Zyn
>
> Sampler: "Sampling instrument with multisample playback and import as well
> as profound sound design options."
>     We don't have something like it, but a bunch of AFP with all the
> effects are a good match.
>
>  Analog – "Emulates the unique character of vintage analog synthesizers"
>     Whatever
>
>  Collision – "Physical modeling instrument for authentic mallet percussion
> sounds and creative percussion"
>     Is our Mallets working? But even if, Collision seems to be more
> complex and complete.
>
> Tension – "Physical modeling string synthesizer"
>     We don't have it
>
> Electric – "The sounds of classic electric pianos"
>     Well I don't know how well it works, but its GUI is quite little...
> Our Zyn can do more I think
>
>  Drum Rack – "An instrument for layering samples, synths and effects in a
> classic 16-pad grid"
>     We don't have this kind of feature, we can do drumsynth racks with Zyn
> but we can't import audio files in it.
>
>  Simpler – an easy-to-use but powerful sampler with classic synthesis
> parameters.
>     Basically the same as Audio File Processor, but without Functions.
>
>  Impulse – "A drum sampler with complex modulation capabilities"
>     I don't get what it is... It again seems similar to Audio File
> Processor, but it has Transposition and Stretch (we lack of them, but we
> can play a lower or higher note and fix the pitch with pitch-shifter effect)
>
>
> Then they have 34 Audio Effects (we have more and faster ones. I saw in a
> comparison video between it and Cubase that for every effect processed, the
> sound is delayed a bit °-°)
> And 7 "MIDI effects": Arpeggiator (we have it), Chord (Theirs lets you
> select 6 notes to add), Note Lenght (we... don't... have it?), Pitch (err..
> that's an "effect"?), Random (we can achieve it with arpeggiator), Scale
> (it's more complex than previous ones), Velocity (whatever)
>
>
>
> And stop, the rest of the page is about hardwares, community, downloads,
> editions etc.
>
>
> Nothing stops us from having a tab like this in our page, it would be fun
> :P
>
>  _____________
>
> I wanted to do one about Mixcraft, but the page doesn't explain anything...
> I think it's enough... Cubase or Logic are too different from LMMS to do
> such a comparison.
>
>
> *Conclusion*
> I know that those two programs have a lot of features we lack of... mostly
> GUI features. But as far as audio is concerned, we do have a lot to offer.
> What do we have now in the homepage?
>
> We link to a Tutorial! It's a big plus compared to those other programs.
> Next to it, we link to Download page.
> All with a great video.
> We briefly describe what LMMS is, does and has.
> Then we... link to Download again.
> Then we link to community pages for support, and to github for problems.
> We invite the user to share what they do.
>
> THEEEEEEEEN we let the user see some great screenshots of the program.
> And then we list features.
>
>
>
> So the big differences are:
> FLStudio:
> - Doesn't say anything about the program, only a welcome back for their
> users
>
> Ableton:
> - Takes a lot of space to show features and then links to more content
> and hardware to buy.
>
> LMMS:
> - Lets the video talk about the program, then suggest the user to get in
> touch with the community. At the end of the page, a list of features is
> shown.
>
>
> After all this comparison and analysis what I think we should do is:
> - Put the screenshots upper in the page, before (or maybe right after) the
> "Take you Pick"
> - State some of the features as a description of those screenshots
> - Link to the Showcase page somehow (Let the program "speak for itself"
> [cit])
> - We do have a great list of tutorials here
> <https://lmms.io/documentation/Video_tutorials>, I think they deserve a
> place in the Homepage
>
> What do you think about our homepage compared to others?
>
>
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