Israel,
I'm not sure, but here's a question to the Qt mailing list about QML with a
large codebase....
http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2015-June/017412.html
And an accompanying YouTube video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vhIq3Nxmz0
And a forum conversation about leveraging QML on a desktop application:
http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/60022-Should-I-use-Qt-or-QML-for-my-desktop-application?p=266173#post266173
Here's a blog talking about some layout features in Qt 5.1 (some of these
appear to be availble in 4.8 already and I'm not convinced that any of them
are specific to Qt Quick)
http://www.ics.com/blog/whats-new-qt-51-qt-quick-controls
Jonathan's original request to do media queries isn't a concept the desktop
would use normally. It doesn't appear Qt Quick/QML changes this and I'm
not sure it's even a useful concept. We certainly need to eventually
layout our C++ components more dynamically, but the "atomagically use CSS
layout tricks" doesn't really work conceptually. Remember, this is native
code we're writing not a web page.
- tres.finocchi...@gmail.com
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Israel <israeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Doesn't QML have the abilities Jonathan is describing?
> The ability to resize based on form factor is demonstrated in the Ubuntu
> Phone apps which use QML. Perhaps this is what he is asking?
>
>
> On 04/30/2016 12:15 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote:
>
> Perhaps I didn't answer the question fully...
>
> Is this already being done?
>
>
> No, the CSS that Qt supports doesn't seems to have the capabilities you
> speak of.
>
> How are things being done currently?
>
>
> This is a very broad statement. Layout of Windows (MDI-style-sub-windows,
> you know the ones the 90s thought were a good idea) are done through the
> QMdiArea/QMdiSubWindow <http://doc.qt.io/qt-4.8/qmdisubwindow.html> C++
> classes that are provided with the Qt framework.
>
> The layout of the GUI components is quite far behind anything you're
> describing. Just a standard overflow-style-layout where components
> overflow naturally doesn't work well with Qt out of the box.
>
> Some items, such as the QMdiSubWindow title bars
> <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/2450> can't even be themed out of
> the box and require some custom C++ code to draw properly (leveraging CSS
> for the styling of individual items when possible of course
> <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/pull/2516/files#diff-5e0b9f5887910241c7d7a7d4b359cfe1L411>
> ).
>
> Individual Widgets use QWidget
> <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/blob/master/include/TabBar.h#L39>, but
> still don't have full CSS support you speak of. They're mostly bound to
> the QMdiArea or whatever container they're attached/added/contained
> within/to.
>
> Although CSS allows the styling of components within LMMS, the layout of
> them inside their container is very (very) static currently. We're working
> to make this better (e.g. with our new theme
> <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/2587>), but the end-goal would be to
> implement something like a single-window interface
> <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/1911> (abolish the QMdiArea) and
> have a dedicated framework for drawing and layout out our GUI elements.
>
> The UI in the single-window proposal is written by @fundamental/Zyn author
> and his work is available here (specific to Zyn for now):
> https://github.com/fundamental/zyn-ui-two
>
> This is more than just a layout engine though. To achieve true real-time
> DSP, Qt's signals and slots will go away (we rely on them quite heavily
> now <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=slots&type=Code>).
> This also requires a good decoupling of the GUI and the core using a new
> message handling approach <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/pull/2252> (<-
> closed/wontfix).
>
> But even when all of this is done, will component layout be CSS driven?
> Probably not (or only in part) It'll more likely be driven by the
> underlying C++ layout engine, but you can ping @fundamental if you'd like
> to know more about that.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tres Finocchiaro <
> tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Is there a way we can take advantage of css and media queries to make
>>> managing different screen sizes and resolutions easier to deal with in
>>> terms of layout?
>>
>>
>> No unless you have a link you can share.
>>
>> But our components aren't HTML `div`s. I'm not sure what you're saying.
>> Media queries are uses in HTML primarily as a way to resize the page for
>> different size screens (tablet, mobile, etc).
>>
>> Unless you can link us something that assists with layout, you're not
>> sparking interest, just confusion.
>>
>> - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Jonathan Aquilina <
>> <eagles051...@gmail.com>eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've seen mentions to css in the new theme rework being done by Rebecca
>>> and crew, by the way, I love the new look.
>>>
>>> Is there a way we can take advantage of css and media queries to make
>>> managing different screen sizes and resolutions easier to deal with in
>>> terms of layout?
>>> On 30 Apr 2016 6:38 pm, "Tres Finocchiaro" <
>>> <tres.finocchi...@gmail.com>tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't reply to me personally, and please answer the question.
>>>
>>> Your post makes absolutely no sense in C++ unless you have a reference
>>> to illustrate.
>>>
>>> - <tres.finocchi...@gmail.com>tres.finocchi...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Jonathan Aquilina <
>>> <eagles051...@gmail.com>eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm referring to it in the source code as I'm seeing mentions and
>>>> references to qt in regards to styling
>>>> On 30 Apr 2016 6:22 pm, "Tres Finocchiaro" <
>>>> <tres.finocchi...@gmail.com>tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Where? Our website? Of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms.io/blob/master/public/css/style.css>
>>>>> https://github.com/LMMS/lmms.io/blob/master/public/css/style.css
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you're talking C++. If that's the case, provide a link of what
>>>>> you're talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>> - <tres.finocchi...@gmail.com>tres.finocchi...@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Jonathan Aquilina <
>>>>> <eagles051...@gmail.com>eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is more of a question to spark an interesting discussion. in
>>>>>> terms of window sizes text sizes etc. Seeing as web sites take advantage
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> media queries to be able to cater for all sorts of different screen
>>>>>> sizes.
>>>>>> This would make things very easy to maintain as fixes would need to be
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> and adjusted at the css level only and not in the code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this already being done? How are things being done currently?
>>>>>>
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